00:00Let me stay in the Big Ten here.
00:02Michigan-Penn State, a combined 0-5 in Big Ten play.
00:10A couple of year one head coaches at new programs in Whittingham and Campbell
00:16who it feels like even getting this one won't really be enough
00:23to salvage these seasons.
00:26Penn State had what looked like a schedule so light,
00:32even if you didn't believe in them, they could crash the playoff.
00:35They're now going to be scratching and clawing for bowl eligibility.
00:40That's real.
00:41Like, that's real.
00:42People are going to go, oh, that's not, you know, no, no, it's real.
00:44They lose here.
00:45They're going to be dogs at Washington.
00:47You've only, you know, you don't have a lot of breathing room.
00:50So, Michigan on the other side of it have group chats leaking
00:56or they hate the offensive coordinator.
00:58It's not Bryce Underwood's fault.
01:00This is a six-point number here.
01:02What I ended up doing, maybe I'm nuts, I played over.
01:07I played over 42-and-a-half.
01:11The bye week for Michigan should have spent entirely on getting this offense right.
01:15They have these, like, weird moments where they can't move the ball
01:19and then turnover, sack, something foolish happens.
01:24The Nittany Lions right now are also leaving some points on the board here, I feel.
01:33And their game against USC was closer than a 31-23 final score suggests.
01:38Rocco Beck is not amazing.
01:41I think he's good enough, though, against a low number at 42-and-a-half
01:45for these two teams to get through it.
01:47That Penn State defense might not be all that good.
01:49Northwestern ran wild over them.
01:51I don't think USC had too much issues here.
01:53I'm playing over the 42-and-a-half, Dave.
01:55See, Penn State's schedule is easy until you lose the games.
01:59Once you lose the easy ones, the schedule gets significantly harder
02:03as how you go from being Bearman's pick to jump into the playoff
02:07to a team fighting for bowl eligibility.
02:09That said, I cannot consciously in any way, shape, or form tell anybody on this planet
02:15to lay 6-and-a-half with Michigan against anybody, including my son's 7th-grade flag team.
02:20You just can't lay 6-and-a-half with an offense that's playing that bad
02:25under an offense coordinator evidently nobody likes,
02:28with a quarterback that can't throw the ball under a first-year head coach
02:31that's already being run out the door.
02:32You just can't lay it.
02:33But I do have PTSD from now being 0 for the season in picking Penn State games.
02:39So when I saw Penn State-Michigan, I immediately said, let Kevin have this one
02:44because I want nothing to do with either one of these teams
02:48because I can't seem to pick a Penn State game right,
02:51and I'm not laying 6-and-a-half with Michigan.
02:53You're over is not the worst play in the world,
02:55but I can also see this being 2-0 Michigan because both these teams are terrible.
02:59So I'm out on it, and I'm going to let you play it.
03:03Let me ask you this, though.
03:05Which of these coaches do you think is in more trouble
03:08of potentially being a one-and-done hire?
03:12Of the two, I would say Whittingham's more in danger.
03:15He's a lot older.
03:16I think the Michigan alums are wondering why Michigan went in this direction.
03:20It was kind of going to be a holdover until they could find the next great coach.
03:24Well, there's not going to be much of a holdover if you miss a bowl game.
03:27As far as Matt Campbell in Penn State, you know,
03:30he brought over a whole bunch of players from Iowa State.
03:33You've got to give it a little bit of time.
03:35He's an up-and-coming coach.
03:36He's someone that everybody else wanted.
03:38I think if this was next year and not 2025,
03:43James Franklin would still have a job because losing a couple games
03:47in the middle of the year but still making the playoff,
03:49as Penn State could have done last year, you won't.
03:51That is the one thing about the playoff, Kev, that might work.
03:54His coaches might get longer leash because they're making playoffs.
03:57But I just think you've got to give it time with Matt Campbell.
04:00I'm not so sure you'd get that with Kyle Whittingham.
04:03And look ahead.
