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From there, the conversation shifts to the Detroit Lions and the mounting pressure surrounding general manager Brad Holmes ahead of the NFL trade deadline. The hosts debate whether the Lions should strike a deal immediately or wait until the final deadline, especially with the team’s upcoming international travel to Germany complicating how quickly a newly acquired player can acclimate.

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00:00all right so uh got a trade talk out there gator i don't know if you caught this happened last
00:06night in the nba atlanta was playing the indiana pacers due to injuries the indiana pacers well
00:12i'll give you their their their lineup okay uh jalen slosson played 41 minutes drace walker
00:19played 45 minutes jay huff played 40 minutes quentin jackson played 35 minutes brayden smith
00:25played 42 minutes and kobe brown played 38 minutes that's it that's six players they played
00:34six players last night the pacers only had six healthy bodies last night they got the flu running
00:40through the room or something uh it was just injuries i think i don't think it was illness but
00:46uh let me just go back and take a look at his box score because i think it gives why
00:52everybody was
00:52out um dnp coach's decision obi toppen dmp left ankle sprain zubach dmp coach's decision ubre
01:03uh cervical strain for nembrard and left hamstring injury management for nasmyth dmp rest for siakam
01:13so they rested a player on a night where they how weak does that sound on low management when it
01:20had
01:21to be something else we got six guys who can play siakam you wait no i'm out need the rest
01:27i need the
01:27rest coach well i don't know the details so let's see whatever you did seven games into the season if
01:32you're asking for rest already well he might be asking for us they might have said you need rest
01:41weak kang do you ever show up for like a basketball game and you guys only have like five dudes
01:45like a real game with refs or just like open run no real game with refs yeah yeah it sucks
01:51like you're just it's it's conference you're just trying to conserve energy at that point you're trying
01:56to make it through the game like you win but also don't throw up at some point yeah it's now
02:02but like
02:02when you were 25 you were probably this is awesome yeah i mean you get yeah yeah a little bit
02:07yeah you're right about that you want to play all the time you want to play all the time
02:12any beer league hockey player you show up and there's like six dudes in your room
02:17you are absolute toast i mean we've had games where we've had dudes play the whole 60 i guess we
02:26yeah i guess we 20 minute periods play the whole 60 aside from the goaltender yes
02:33and they're usually the young guys who played a lot of hockey but we've i've been out there where
02:38there was only five of us once and i mean it's just like okay so what are we doing here
02:43we're
02:43icing the puck over and over and over again it's brutal but the pacers played an nba game that way
02:52so well the worst is losing to a team with only like five or six guys well that's the thing
02:57too
02:57look there's only five of them guys we were in a league game once when i was playing
03:03basketball sunday league and uh yeah we had to play a team with five guys and one fouled out
03:11did you win yes we did by a lot no we did not it was way harder than you think
03:19like you're going
03:20against a team and they're shorthanded so it's like you're passing up good shots because you think
03:24everything's supposed to be a lamp and then eventually somebody's getting called for three
03:27seconds or you throw the ball out of bounds you're like what are we doing it was awkward i hate
03:33it
03:35but anyway uh feedback regarding the lions in the trade deadline uh what do we got here i just don't
03:43understand the logic of waiting until the trade deadline let's say we make a trade on tuesday
03:48do we have to get those guys ready for the game that week or do they not play until the
03:54next game
03:54get them now so they can prepare to play at least in the game after the dolphins this weekend that's
04:00from donnie in a truck that makes some sense i don't i mean i'm i'm not waiting if you've got
04:08a deal
04:08on the table and they're willing if you have a somebody that's willing to make a move the question
04:13is are you talking to a team that still hasn't decided they're going to be sellers is the player you
04:17covet that you're holding out for coming from a team that hasn't decided they want to sell yet
04:24so there's an arms race ramping up in the nfc and everyone is worried that brad won't make a
04:29meaningful move maybe brad doesn't think the lions are one or two players away from being a true
04:33contender this year not saying i'm convinced of this but it would explain a lot that's from rod and
04:38birmingham it's possible i do wonder correct me if i'm wrong yeah the lions game after the trade
04:50deadline is in germany does that impact their timeline at all like hey if we got to get a
04:58player to germany do we need to try and make this trade sooner rather than later
05:06like the guy who said make the trade now so he's ready for germany i mean he didn't say germany
05:10but
05:10it is that's the germany game you that could be part of this well what difference does it make
05:16i mean he's whoever the player is is playing this week anyway what just because to get more
05:20with the lions if you get to the trade deadline and it's tuesday and you're already in germany
05:25you got to fly a guy over there well are they is that when they're leaving i don't know when
05:30they're leaving i can't i doubt it i mean germany is it's like a seven hour flight are they leaving
05:35earlier than are they doing the sean mcveigh i was gonna say gonna consult sean mcveigh on travel
05:40schedules here i would imagine they'd leave on friday or saturday oh i think they'd leave earlier than
05:46that just acclimated to the time zone although time zone doesn't matter they play at 9 30 i don't know
05:51248-539-9797 sam is next hello sam hey what up uh on the morning show they said that uh
06:00the lions
06:00would be leaving on thursday to go to germany uh but that's that's not why i called well thank you
06:05that helps us out uh no problem gator uh you know we we know how brad holmes likes to operate
06:12and he
06:12does things on the trade day very last second uh i think that's going to be a bad approach with
06:17this
06:18i feel if you wait too long there's not going to be they'll still be good players but there won't
06:22be players that will be to the caliber that i think the lions need and i i just i just
06:28think waiting
06:30right now is a bad approach you need to go get some people don't be cheap all right i know
06:36he likes to
06:36hoard the picks you need to get rid of them get some players to help this team you got so
06:41many people
06:42missing on defense now pearls for jack campbell well sam what do you think would be holding it up
06:49i think that holmes probably will i don't know but if i'm i i'm guessing holmes doesn't want to pay
06:59a ridiculous price but if you wait and you don't get a player that's good you'll get a cheap player
07:06and
07:07you know just like with everything you buy but you know you you pay what you get for so if
07:13you
07:13pay for something cheap that's probably what you're going to get you got to figure the two the teams
07:17that have really made the moves the colts and the titans that have sold players are really far out of
07:22it
07:22in their division and their conference so unless you're dealing with a team now maybe you can get
07:28miami to move you might be able to get tennessee to move some of their players the chargers but some
07:34of
07:34those guys like and you know we were talking earlier about dallas like you some teams might
07:39be still waiting if you can get derrick stingley if houston says we'll trade you derrick stingley
07:45but we want to see what happens this weekend i think it's worth waiting for i think it would be
07:50so
07:50funny if we go to miami and we beat the crap out of them and they'll be like hey while
07:56we're here
07:56how about we get these players they'll fly back to deproit with us well uh yeah do you want to
08:02make
08:02jordan brooks look bad or do you want jordan brooks to look great against the lions i don't know like
08:07we want to get a good player back but yeah i get where you're coming from yeah i would think
08:11that
08:11the biggest hold up is that the seller doesn't know if they're selling yet some of these teams
08:16but but honestly if derrick stingley might become available what if your guy uh mccollum from the
08:22tampa bay they're talking what if they're talking to him but they haven't decided what they're going
08:25to do yeah i mean do you trade for somebody else or do you wait it out for the better
08:29player
08:31i'm on the phone regardless i'm look you have to have a pecking order going into all of this
08:36and knowing when players become available whatever but you you start with top on your list is what you're
08:42what you're hoping to get and if you shut down on that okay then you got to keep pivoting and
08:46keep
08:46moving but they have to make moves houston plays at los angeles this week against the
08:52chargers okay i was about to say which so you got a two and five houston team against the oh
08:56and
08:56seven chargers team um you know is it possible the chargers can win that game sure i mean because
09:03they're gonna they're gonna win a game at some point i don't think they're gonna go
09:06winless this year and houston has been surprisingly bad this year but if they if houston loses then
09:13they're definitely out of things right because jacksonville is playing so well that's tops of the
09:17division and the rest of the division sucks it's not like they're going to get
09:20the wild card from there so it's a big week for houston that being said i don't if if you're
09:27houston you're probably looking at this team saying i don't know why we're bad this year
09:31but we're going to regroup in the offseason why would i get rid of you know the one of the
09:36best
09:37corners in the league also guys you don't have to wait till they want to sell what the bears do
09:42with
09:42the titans teams called about simmons and they just said no but the bears call back and go we'll give
09:47you we'll start this conversation with two first round picks and then the titans went we're listening
09:51now so you don't have to wait till them they're ready to sell you can put an offer on the
09:55table
09:55where they can't refuse i'm not saying i don't know how aggressive brad holmes is gonna be but
09:58it sounds like the fans want him to get ultra aggressive like don't just look for the deal make
10:04the deal 248-539-9797 jared goff do you like blocking and where did the cfl play what do you
10:12how do you rep that cfl play they ran hear what the quarterback has to say next 97-1
10:18you

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