00:00Another development we've got to talk about, though, Carl Granderson.
00:02He's actually having a really nice season.
00:04He's got, like, five and a half sacks in six games.
00:06He's got 40 pressures.
00:08It's something insane like that.
00:09Just an insane number of different pressures.
00:12Him and Chase Young are like the two good people on the Saints defense right now.
00:15Yeah, I mean, he's been really, really productive.
00:18And so, you know, as people tend to do, you want to talk, you know,
00:22your bleep about the game, whatever it is, in a very Jared-verse-esque fashion
00:25where it feels like no one's really asking for you to say anything right now.
00:29He feels like he needs to say something.
00:30This is off of Shador's comments earlier in the week.
00:33This is Carl Granderson, defensive end for the Saints.
00:36Here we go.
00:36We're going to come in with a chip on our shoulder for sure.
00:39You know, they've been chipping a little bit.
00:41We see what the quarterback's going to say.
00:43So, you know, we're going to come in hot and ready to play.
00:46We're going to pack the defense, and the offense is going to come with it.
00:49So it's going to be a good game for sure.
00:51So we're going to come out with the dirt.
00:52Jonathan, sorry, missed me with this.
00:55Missed me with this.
00:56What did the quarterback say?
00:57Hey, we spent all week on this very station trying to figure out what the quarterback said.
01:03Yeah, we spent hours upon hours coming to the conclusion that the quarterback really was trying not to say anything.
01:09The reason why it got awkward for Shador Sanders in that whole press conference is because he was trying hard
01:14not to say anything provocative.
01:15He was trying hard not to give up bulletin board material at the price of him sounding just odd.
01:22There's no other, there's no delicate way to put it.
01:24He sounded odd because he was so, he was just trying so hard not to give the Saints any sort
01:29of bulletin board material or anything to really latch on to.
01:32Or give, you know, the Browns beat reporters anything to write about.
01:35This is proof though, Nick.
01:37This is proof.
01:38If they want to think something happened, they're going to think something happened.
01:41I do.
01:41I would have loved to know from Granderson's perspective, what did Shador say?
01:47Like, what is the bulletin board material?
01:50I'd like to know that too.
01:50Was it Mary Kay's question that, again, that we've been talking about all week when she asked, what have you
01:56seen from the Saints defense?
01:57And he smiled.
01:58Well, so is that it?
01:59Is it the smile?
02:00Is that it?
02:00If I smile, you know I see something?
02:02They're taking that.
02:03All right, to be fair to Karl Granderson, I mean, I took that the way that he probably did then.
02:07I took that as if, yes, Shador has been not only dissecting the film the way that he's supposed to,
02:12but he obviously sees something that he feels really good about.
02:17I just don't think that there's no bulletin board material.
02:20There's no quote.
02:21The quote was, I will pull up the quote.
02:24A quote doesn't exist, but a smile does, Nick.
02:26The quote was, if you see me smiling, know I see something.
02:30What is that?
02:33You're going to put that in the locker room if I see something and I'm smiling.
02:37Okay, put that on the locker room.
02:39Nick, you know these athletes?
02:39You've been around enough of them.
02:41They search for anything.
02:42They do.
02:43They're looking for anything.
02:44And that's what made the first conversation.
02:46And now there's like real grudge here between Granderson and Shador to the point where I would bet dollars to
02:51donuts if Granderson continues his sack a week the way he has for the previous three.
02:56If he sacks, wrist up.
02:58Probably.
02:59He's going to be another one of those wrist up guys.
03:00You know it's coming.
03:01Anybody.
03:02I think you could probably say the same thing for Chase Young.
03:04I think if Shador gets sacked in this game, somebody's going to do the wrist up.
03:07I'd like to earn it, though.
03:09If you're going to chirp and you're going to give him bulletin board material, I'd like to at least earn
03:12it.
03:13At least in the Jared-verse fiasco, as much as we ripped them all, he did get Steeler Nation all
03:18hot and bothered.
03:18Yeah, yeah.
03:19He caught a WWE promo.
03:21He said, I'm not scared of Cam.
03:23I'm not scared of anybody on their roster.
03:25Which, if you're going to do it, don't half-ass it.
03:27At least go the entire way into that.
03:28I can appreciate that side of things.
03:30And he did.
03:31He got his money's worth out of it.
03:32Not really, because he got dragged for it this week because he didn't show up against Pittsburgh.
03:36I just don't think that Shador said anything that can even be considered bulletin board material.
03:44No, but that's the difference in the Shador conversation than everybody else.
03:47If anything, it's bulletin board material for the Cleveland beat.
03:50Who was upset with him because he didn't say anything?
03:53Unfortunately, and this is not because Shador does anything himself, but Shador is a walking bulletin board material.
03:59That's the problem that exists around it.
04:01And this is why, when people talk about, can he be on teams as a backup, or can he do
04:05this, and can he do that?
04:07If he's not the starting quarterback, there's a lot that comes with Shador.
04:11And it's unfortunate because it's not always his fault, but he is.
04:14He's a walking bulletin board materialist.
04:16Because even if they didn't want to pick apart his comments here, they would pick apart different things about Shador.
04:23They'd do the wrist-up thing.
04:24They would quote his lyrics back to him.
04:26They would do anything they possibly can to get under his skin.
04:29And I think he's unflappable when it comes to that, by the way.
04:32I don't think you can get under his skin.
04:35I think how he was raised, that's just not a thing you get to be able to do in life.
04:38But they're going to try their best.
04:40Now, here is where Jared Burris should come out and say something crazy.
04:44If Jared Burris came out with an Instagram story and called out Carl Granderson, now we know we've got a
04:51real lunatic on our hands.
04:53I don't think that's going to happen, but it would be really funny if it did.
04:56I mean, should somebody with the Browns be sticking up and defending for Shador here?
05:00I mean, outside of Jared Burris.
05:02Jared Burris is done talking.
05:03You know that, I know that.
05:04I don't know that he is, though.
05:05He says he's not.
05:07He's done talking for a little bit.
05:08Yeah, but I don't think that.
05:09Get a sack, and then you can maybe start talking again.
05:11I don't think that he's done talking, Jonathan.
05:12He spent his whole press conference talking about how he's talked trash since college.
05:16I know, I know.
05:17And this is what he does to motivate himself.
05:19I get it.
05:20But if after eight weeks of trying to motivate yourself and nothing works, maybe try a different tactic.
05:24I don't know.
05:25Maybe go get a massage beforehand or something.
05:27Maybe not that.
05:28An energy drink.
05:29Try literally anything else.
05:32Yeah, I don't know.
05:35What Sanders said this week is not bulletin board material.
05:39It's not.
05:40He really tried hard to make it not bulletin board material, but clearly it is to Saints Edge Carl Granderson.
05:46Like, we've spent so much time this week talking about how Shador has to do these press conferences.
05:51The morning show brought Mary Kay on, and it was suggested, should Shador not have to do press conferences if
05:58he just doesn't like them and if he's going to give you guys nothing?
06:01And Mary Kay said, no, that's ridiculous.
06:04It's part of the obligation of a franchise quarterback.
06:06You've got to stand up there and answer the questions, even if he doesn't want to do it.
06:10It's clear that he doesn't want to do it.
06:12It's clear that he wants to control his own narrative.
06:14He's got to do it anyways.
06:16He did it this week in the most sidestep avenue that he possibly could where he tried to say as
06:21little as humanly possible.
06:23And now there are people on social media right now trying to say, well, here's another week of the Browns
06:29giving bulletin board material to their opposition.
06:32Last week, look, I'll give it to you because Jared Verse cut a check with his mouth that his rear
06:37end didn't cash against Pittsburgh.
06:39This is not that, though.
06:41This is not that.
06:42Listen, you tell Carl Granderson that.
06:44And if he wants to create it up out of thin air, which is pretty close to what he's doing
06:48here, then all right.
06:50But that was that was enough for him.
06:51You know, I know, like I again, I do.
06:53I think it's ridiculous that Shador is constantly damned if he does damned if you do type mentality.
06:57It is.
06:58Yeah, that stinks.
06:59That stinks.
06:59Like I empathize with that in his existence, that that's kind of how he has to operate.
07:04That is how this works.
07:07But Carl Granderson really seems to think that something happened there.
07:09And so, like, you can you can you can tell him till the cows come home that nothing was actually
07:13said or nothing.
07:14No smile was actually given.
07:15And Shador wasn't trying to tip off that something was actually done here.
07:19He disagrees.
07:20And so now we got another week of bulletin board material.
07:22Another week of like, I'm just I'm just kind of tired of bulletin board material.
07:25I've got the I've got the exact I'm just kind of I don't think it really does anything for the
07:29games for the most part.
07:30I don't think it really actually impacts the games in ways that that fans think it does.
07:34I just I'm kind of tired of bulletin board material.
07:36Got the exact quote pulled up.
07:38I mean, if this is bulletin board material, if some sorry sap on the Saints coaching staff has to type
07:44this out and print it up and hang it in the Saints locker room.
07:48I just feel bad for the current state of affairs in New Orleans.
07:51I have the quote.
07:52This is not bulletin board material.
07:54OK, he says he says, yeah, I've seen a lot when I smile.
07:58Just know that means something.
08:00I'm maturing.
08:01You know what I'm saying?
08:03I'm maturing like I could have gave a defense an answer, but now I'm just going to smile.
08:08I mean, your interpretation of it, though, after he smiled, then was it was him saying he saw something that
08:12he really liked, right?
08:14That's how I took it, I guess.
08:16But he didn't say that.
08:17Like if he came out and said, you mean you just said it.
08:19Well, you just read it back.
08:20Hey, I'm smiling because the Saints defense stinks.
08:24That's bulletin board material that you print out.
08:26He said, I've seen a lot.
08:28When I smile, just know that it means something.
08:30Who knows?
08:30Maybe he's smiling because he's going to go home and eat a great dinner.
08:34We don't know.
08:35We should or never told us.
08:36He said when he sees something, he smiles and then he smiled.
08:39He clearly sees something.
08:41I just don't think that this is.
08:42I mean, it clearly does.
08:43This is a complete nothing burger to me.
08:46It's not to Carl Granderson.
08:48I evidently.
08:49I maintain I need Jared Verse to drop an Instagram story or something.
08:53It'd be so funny.
08:54Is it the role of Jared Verse is to just clean up everybody's mess?
08:58I can get on board with Jared Verse.
08:59Yeah, but I'm not picking up that fifth year option.
09:01If your role is to just anytime anybody says anything, you come in and you make it.
09:06You're the cleaner.
09:07Or what's the Donovan show?
09:10The fixer?
09:11You're the fixer.
09:12You come in and you just.
09:13Anytime anyone makes a mistake, you come in and you fix what they did wrong.
09:17You just come in and say something dumber.
09:18And finally, I found something productive that Jared Verse can do.
09:21He's not sacking the quarterback.
09:22I got something productive he can do.
09:242-1-6-4-7-4 to below 92.
09:26Nelson and Avon Lake up next on the fan.
09:28What's up, Nelson?
09:29What's up, boys?
09:30How you doing tonight?
09:31No, I'm doing all right.
09:33In the annals of trash talking, I'm still trying to figure out what the heck Sanders was trying
09:39to say, right?
09:40Because I still don't know what that meant.
09:43Hey, when he sees something and he smiles, just know it means something.
09:47I guess.
09:48But what?
09:48I mean, I don't know.
09:50I would say this, right?
09:52If you saw the, and I think it was brilliant from the social media folks, right?
09:56If you saw, obviously you guys saw the posting from their quarterback and how he was giving
10:01the Browns defense, obviously, their flowers.
10:04Maybe that's, I don't know, maybe that's what, you know, maybe that's what Sanders should
10:10have done, right?
10:10Like give, give their defense, their flowers.
10:12And please don't get me going on verse that.
10:16I mean, I'm sorry, man.
10:17That dude was so clownish with all that talk.
10:20And I don't know.
10:21He's going to be in the WWE, Nelson.
10:23He's going to take on Westlake.
10:24So Logan Paul, maybe he could, he told us a really good game and he, and he looks like
10:28an Adonis.
10:29Yeah.
10:30And then just, just trash talking your teammates for not whatever, dude.
10:34All right, man.
10:35See y'all.
10:35All right.
10:36Thank you, Nelson.
10:37Weird week.
10:37Thank you, Nelson has been a weird week.
10:39Uh, yeah.
10:40Jared first missed that part of the memo.
10:42It's like, we want you to trash talk and maybe not your own teammates.
10:45Yeah.
10:46Maybe not.
10:47Uh, I, I, I mean, it does feel like the saints wanted to make a deal out of this and
10:52they
10:52have, they've succeeded.
10:53It's now been, everyone's online is discussing this.
10:56Uh, now a Granderson seems to feel as if there's been something really deeply wrong about
11:00the comments that Chador made.
11:02And I think we both agree.
11:03They didn't cross the line or anything like that.
11:05Chador was actively trying not to say anything that was bulletin board material.
11:10And here we're in another situation where it seems like the saints, and sometimes it's
11:13just, again, damned if you do, damned if you don't.
11:16But, but like the reality is, is that the saints are taking it.
11:19At least Granderson is taking it as if Chador wopped some sort of grenade across the floor
11:25and really wanted to get this whole thing stirred up.
11:28And so it is what it is.
11:29JP, are we going to get Mime Sanders back?
11:31Like, remember Mime Sanders from last year?
11:34Do I remember?
11:35Yeah.
11:35Man, that was a week.
11:36Do I remember?
11:36That was a week of conversation.
11:38There's only been a couple of times in the Chador Sanders experience.
11:40I know, I know some of you guys wish it was more than a couple.
11:42You were bothered by Mime Sanders.
11:44I didn't, I didn't mind.
11:45I thought it was funny.
11:46There's only been a couple of times that it's been truly just indefensible in a way that I
11:50just cannot.
11:51I, there's no, there's no getting around it.
11:53I just can't defend it.
11:54Mime Sanders was one of them.
11:56What we saw over the past couple of days, also another one of those instances, I just
12:00can't defend it.
12:01You're looking odd there, Chador.
12:03Just, just don't do those things.
12:05Be a little bit better in that spot, but you're right.
12:08This is how we get Mime Sanders.
12:09This is like, it's how we got it last time.
12:11This is the beginning stages of Mime Sanders when stuff like this happens.
12:14And then people like Granderson, uh, all of a sudden take it incredibly personal.
12:18I mean, my goodness, how the saints are really just, this is a Bikram yoga-esque reach
12:22by them to try to make this a thing.
