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What happened Sunday?? Former Patriots QB Brian Hoyer joins! #live Hoyer: "Just disappointing really" "I would have loved, at some point, for Drake to just take a shot over McKinney's head"
What does Hoyer make of the Patriots' lack of trades? "As a former player, do players look at the no-movement, and feel a certain type of way about it?"
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00:00morning brian hey good morning greg how are you great how are you i'm great beautiful day heading
00:06to uh zavarian football practice so can't complain yeah did i see a big win i saw something on social
00:12media yeah yeah they're playing uh central catholic uh this friday night big game big rematch i think
00:18i believe we lost uh 52 51 last time so it was a shootout so um yeah veterans day thank
00:24you to all
00:24those who uh serve and have served um so of course kids know school and early practice in the sun
00:30all right now you've had some time to digest it what what what happened um on sunday just
00:38disappointing really i thought a prime opportunity to go up against a really good team and and
00:44you know play tough and i just don't think they did and uh the turnovers are one thing and and
00:50i think
00:51these were different than earlier in the year i just i would have loved at some point for drake
00:55to just take a shot over mckinney's head because they actually did a really good job of kind of
01:00playing chicken with him on some of these cross deep cross patterns with the with a post over top
01:05similarly to what jordan love did to the patriots defense by throwing that post uh to christian
01:10watson like you just have to make them honor the fact that you might throw it over their head and
01:14i
01:14think mckinney the first interception he kind of he gets a little bit of depth and then he drives on
01:19the cross on holland and obviously goes and gets the interception it was very similar uh on the i
01:24guess it was the third interception uh when drake was trying to throw it to raritan like he he took
01:29a step or two back for the deep one but then he drove on the crosser and i think if
01:33at early in the
01:34game even if you don't complete it you throw it over his head he at least says okay i have
01:39to honor
01:39the deep ball and i i feel like they never felt that on uh sunday night it was it was
01:45an odd game
01:45offensively because it was like you either turned the ball over or you had a really good drive and
01:50so clearly they had uh you know a good game plan but the turnovers really just stymied that and then
01:56defensively i just thought they looked for the first time in uh the variable area just non-competitive
02:01and i don't i don't get it like you know the packers aren't going to run the football they're
02:05going to throw it and so when the corners were off jordan love did a good job of taking the
02:09easy
02:09quick ones and then when they got up there uh they threw it over their heads and and you knew
02:14that
02:14that's what they were going to do so i think that's the most disappointing part it wasn't like
02:17green bay came in here and did something different that you weren't expecting um we were just listening
02:23to micah parsons suggest that drake may has lost confidence at least from his perspective do you feel
02:29that way no i don't think that those throws were a lack of confidence i don't think like early in
02:35the
02:35season i think that's what caused those turnovers i don't think the turnovers the other night
02:39if anything they were being aggressive i just like i said the one on the sideline reminded me a
02:44lot of the seattle interception throwing up the dobs okay the ball gets tipped that's going to
02:49happen the other two i just felt like mckinney did a good job and and when i say played chicken
02:54when
02:55you have a read a quarterback where you have a deep post and you have a deep cross you're you
03:00have to
03:01read that safety and and typically if he starts to back up you want to throw the cross but you
03:06have
03:06to make sure that he's backing up to take the deep one and i just think even after that first
03:10interception which i do felt i felt like drake kind of rushed up into the pocket he kind of did
03:15that jump pass so he couldn't get everything on it it's like if you're going to throw the cross you're
03:19going to have to throw with a little more uh pace to it so he can't beat the man to
03:23the ball uh but i
03:24don't think there was a lack of confidence i mean i look at the the touchdown of monday he knew
03:28exactly
03:28where to go with the ball they're playing man coverage it's a great matchup there was a lot of good
03:32throws they've thrown a hunter henry over the middle so i don't think that this was a game where
03:36it was any type of lack of confidence brian i'm just curious your perspective three straight bad
03:43starts where do you place that and how do you fix it well i mean look no one wants to
03:50have a bad start
03:50i promise you whether it's the patriots or whether it's you know the west coast teams who script the
03:55first 15 plays everybody's going in and you're doing friday practice and you're doing you know the
03:59openers of the game they just need better execution obviously offensively you go out and you throw an
04:05interception on what like the second play of the game things turn quickly the defense has to have it
04:09has to have a sudden change and answer and i just felt like it more so than anything the defense
04:15even early in the year when when there was the turnover problem with drake may like they played hard
04:20and i felt like the other night it just didn't look like the same uh energy and the same you
04:25know
04:25hustle to the ball and and christian gonzalez that is not the guy that i recognize out there
04:30uh just not very competitive and and look they have good receivers but this is a guy who locked
04:35down jsn in the super bowl so i i don't know you know what's going on the thing that concerns
04:39me the
04:40most is now you are hearing from players about the locker room you hear vrabel say we need our best
04:45players to play well like those are all things that i would say are probably a little bit concerning
04:50i wanted to get to that so mike vrabel with us on monday i asked about uh whether that loss
04:58would
04:58affect the decision decision making when it came to the trade deadline and he pivoted to we got to
05:06get guys i'm paraphrasing but guys who want to be here and and want to be playing for us and
05:12if they
05:12don't let us know before the trade deadline then you hear matt collins and what he said do you think
05:18there is there are guys there are there are there's concern on when it comes to some of the guys
05:24on
05:25this team with the effort and guys who don't want to be here um i didn't think that until i
05:30saw the
05:30game the other night and i thought there was a little bit of lack of effort i don't know i
05:33don't
05:33know what's going on the fact that they're addressing it in the media to me is a bit concerning like
05:38those
05:38are typically things that you uh kind of keep within the family and i think variable is 100 true like
05:44when you have a big game and bill belichick used to say it like our best players have to play
05:50their
05:50best if we don't get the best play out of our best players you know there's everybody has a role
05:55on the team and when you're the one of the best guys whether that's you know drake or monday or
06:00gonzalez or whoever it may be if they don't play their best it's going to be very hard to win
06:05in the
06:05nfl because everybody else has a role as a role player and so when when that happens it's look the
06:11the packers and and the scary thing about the packers they can't run the football they don't
06:15have micah parsons so what is what is that team going to be down the road jordan love probably
06:20playing quarterback as good as anybody in the nfl and so when you go up against a team like that
06:25everybody has to play their best but your best players have to play their best and if they don't
06:29that was the result on sunday night brian we've had this conversation people talk about it uh about
06:36is drake may the quarterback that we see him against bad teams but we don't see that guy against
06:45good teams is he kind of falling into that world of like all right when you start to look at
06:51him
06:51versus good teams he tends to struggle or uh oh is it just something like a couple bad games here
06:57this he's still that guy that people feel like is that elite quarterback and heading to that elite
07:02quarterback status i think he is i mean look where you play like i never thought i never went
07:07into a game thinking like this is a good team or a bad team they're all good teams they're all
07:11nfl
07:11teams they're all nfl players and good coaches and if you don't bring it there you can get beat i
07:16mean
07:16i went to i remember we went down to jacksonville and jacksonville was quote unquote not a good team
07:20in 2018 and we lost like we had no business losing to them if you don't play your best now
07:26did that mean that tom brady wasn't an elite quarterback no it's just it's a week-to-week thing
07:30in the nfl for as much as you know there's fantasy and there's betting like all of that stuff
07:36if you don't bring it every single sunday you will get beat i don't care who you're playing because in
07:42in my mind as a player i never went in and thought this wasn't college when i was at michigan
07:46state
07:46and i got to play eastern michigan okay this is this is a legit league and everybody gets paid to
07:52play and if you don't bring it and you don't have the effort and not and don't have the execution
07:56you will get beat and i don't think there's not a team i don't know if i asked you right
08:00now who's
08:01the best team in the nfl this is like every week i would say there's a new number one team
08:05quote unquote
08:06and then they do something caleb williams throws four picks and i'm like i don't know if the bears
08:10can win if he plays like that so it's just to me like i don't i don't give a lot
08:15of weight to a good
08:17team and a bad team uh because he beat the buffalo bills that's a pretty good team like i i
08:22just don't
08:22think we can look at the schedule and look at other teams and their records and say all of these
08:26things and say you know and and i think too and this is not making an excuse i someone sent
08:32me this
08:32the other day like drake may at at 24 compared to josh allen at 24 like he basically has them
08:38beat or
08:38the same in every category pastor rating touchdowns wins like all of those things and i think josh allen's
08:45pretty darn good so i know that maybe they were ahead of schedule last year and getting to the super
08:50bowl there's going to be some struggles and i don't think that what happened sunday night was
08:55was kind of any indication of going back to what happened those first three games those first three
08:59games i didn't recognize the player um ever since then even the other night i thought there was a lot
09:05of confident throws um and and i don't think that that was an indication of going back to where
09:10he was in the first three weeks we got and we are joined by brian hoyer brought to you every
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09:23brian on the heels of a loss and play over in europe i don't know where do you stand on
09:28whether that's a
09:29real pain in the ass or or has not much to do with the outcome of the game these uh
09:34euro games yeah i
09:36think definitely whoever handles it better gives you an advantage but ultimately once you cross the
09:40white lines it's about playing good football and so uh i actually enjoyed it especially now that i look
09:46back in my career i was able to play in london able to play in mexico city my one regret
09:50because i'm my
09:51dad's from germany is i never got to play in germany but the fans there are truly incredible
09:56um when the patriots played in frankfurt i had some of the family from over there they they tried to
10:01get
10:01access to the tickets they were in a queue online of over two and a half million people trying to
10:05get
10:05to the game so thankfully i still had some connections with the patriots and i got them tickets and they
10:10had a
10:10blast but i think uh you you have a lot of patriots fans there and you have aman ross st
10:15brown who's also
10:15half german his mom's from germany so it's going to be an electric crowd and um you you have to
10:21handle the travel i know ted harper the nutritionist and you know jim whalen and those guys they have a
10:26great plan because they've played a lot of these games so obviously practice today have dinner fly
10:31over and then get acclimated i like the fact they're going you know wednesday night as opposed
10:35to thursday night an extra day to get acclimated and ultimately it's about playing good football and i think
10:41the one difference between the team you just went up against the packers is this this detroit lions
10:46team can run the ball and they have probably uh one of the top two running backs in the league
10:50with
10:50jamir gibbs and and if you can't stop him it's going to be a long day because if he gets
10:55going we know
10:56golf is really good at the play action pass getting it to aman ross st brown uh jameson
11:01williams is a just explosive threat with his speed and then laporta work in the middle and the
11:06offensive line is really solidified for them the good thing is their defense is is not very good
11:13they have a lot of injuries obviously devastating injury to jack campbell wish him well uh really
11:18you got to handle aiden hutchinson and and in the back end they're they're hurting because brian
11:23branch came back he he's been injured again uh i think this could be an opportunity for drake may to
11:28get on uh you know on on the right page with his receivers as long as they can handle the
11:33protection
11:34because it's crazy the lions like lead the league in sacks but they have one of the worst secondaries
11:38in the league so um as long as you can handle the pass rush i feel good about the patriots
11:42offense
11:43defensively you got to stop gibbs and then you can't you know give up the explosive pass plays to
11:48golf so just your thoughts you mentioned at the beginning there so the patriots leave tonight
11:53the the lions leave a day later why why can nobody come to an agreement on this obviously we're never
11:59going to see another team fly to uh melbourne the day of the game but uh why do you think
12:05that
12:05there's the discrepancy in how teams are approaching this i just think people look at it differently i
12:10mean you get around like the sports science people and they say you know do this and you should sleep
12:14on the plane well some people can't sleep on the plane that's why i like the patriots actually going
12:18a day earlier okay maybe someone sleeps on the plane you get there you're going to be tired the first
12:24day right anybody who's gone on that flight you're going to have the jet lag and i remember when we
12:28went to
12:28london we went on thursday night and so landed in in london you know 5 a.m over there went
12:34to the
12:34hotel took a quick cat nap and then had our typical monday i kind of like the idea of having
12:39an extra day
12:40and also i think there needs to be like look you're going over there for one reason that's to win
12:44a
12:44football game but i also with the perspective of being a retired athlete like i i like the fact that
12:50maybe they get a day to explore the city that they could have a team dinner i know uh lawrence
12:54metz you
12:55know he's a german guy on the offensive line he's going to host the team dinner at a at a
12:59you know
12:59good uh german food restaurant like there is a factor of team bonding and when we talked about
13:04earlier like we want guys to be here maybe there's a little bit that you can gain in a camaraderie
13:10mode here going on this trip and really coming together because it's they need to win this game
13:15because after the bye it's a very tough stretch not including the chargers and so i think this could
13:19really bring the team together uh in a unique way brian deadline came and went yesterday in the
13:25past didn't make a move what does that tell you about mike rabel elliott wolf all of the guys and
13:30what they feel about the team and as a former player do players look at the the no movement and
13:36feel a
13:36certain type of way about it i mean it's it's all you know case by case scenario i think if
13:41anything
13:41the one the one thing that you were looking especially with the injury to ramondre was could you could
13:47you get a run because there's another running back out there that you can maybe get but i think
13:51if you're trying to make those trades in in a specific way like like the jacksonville jaguars
13:56they clearly feel like they have a team that can win a super bowl and they're going all in now
14:01if
14:01they don't win they've just leveraged the future i think rabel and elliot wolf are not looking at it
14:07in that sense i think they feel and i think brave said it like we have the guys in here
14:11but we need
14:11those guys to step up and need to want to be here and that like to me when he when
14:15he's got to send
14:16that message through the outside world the media like hopefully those players step up and listen
14:20because and i think a lot of this has to do with the injuries there's just a lack of continuity
14:26with
14:26the players that are out there and they've had to try to fight that there's no way around it
14:30i would love for them to win this week have the buy get some of these guys back get some
14:34of these
14:34guys healthy i think that's probably what they looked at are we going to try to trade you know
14:38picks for someone to add or are we going to maybe get some of these guys back after the buy
14:42and and get them healthy and then maybe get back to full strength brian when you look at this
14:47football team do you still believe do you still have the confidence that this team can be a
14:52championship contender i do in in a sense that i don't like i said i don't who who's gonna who's
14:59the best team in the league right now i think when they play good football complementary football
15:03i don't think we've seen a complete game from them yet and the turnovers have to stop you can't win
15:08until you keep from losing they have to stop turning the football over and then defensively
15:13i just that performance the other night i didn't recognize that defense i think they can get back
15:17to where they were i really thought they would be the team that gave jordan love the toughest time
15:22because you had gonzalez because you had a defensive front that could get pressure and give different
15:27looks i i didn't think they did that and i think uh if they can play a complete game you
15:32would see a
15:33team that looks like a contender i i don't think that they needed to go and add somebody now would
15:38i have
15:38love to get jonathan taylor because monday's out and you're really thin at running back of course but
15:43i'm sure they were asking a ransom for that and it's not worth doing it so i think they need
15:48to
15:48get healthy i need they they need to eliminate the turnovers and defensively they need to create
15:52more turnovers they got to even out this turnover ratio but i think if they play good football just
15:57because uh the league from week to week fluctuates so much if you get hot at the right time and
16:03these
16:04players can find that's the one thing i don't see the same energy and the same um let's call it
16:09the
16:10culture that we saw last year and it's tough to do it when you you got guys in and out
16:14and you're not
16:15executing well they have to figure that out from within uh they have the right guys to do it they
16:20just it's got to be about execution all right brian who do you like on sunday i think this can
16:25be a
16:25close game i really do i think the the one factor here is i think the lines defense is is
16:30porous in the
16:30back end uh i hope maybe and i know aj brown's making the trip if he can get back out
16:35there
16:35i think this is like a 24 to 21 i think the patriots can win this game that's what i'm
16:40gonna go with
16:40and excellent job by your guy tom brady on the broadcast on sunday i don't know yeah i thought
16:46he did great handling all that and hey i want to shout out wiggy too he got a big i
16:50didn't know you
16:51were a celebrity matchmaker here with gonk and camille good job that's what i do brother
16:57i'll help out the help out the guys and the gals yeah it was a great weekend it just that
17:03everything
17:03was great except the game um it was great to see all the guys back in um i wasn't on
17:08the 16 team but
17:09i came back in 17 so a lot of the guys that i i played with in 17 were there
17:13and great to see
17:14everybody doing well and obviously tom and i thought he handled the broadcast really well uh i thought
17:19kevin burkhart burkhart gave him a good opportunity to kind of be nostalgic and talk about what this place
17:24means to to him and uh i thought he did a really good job all right brian hoyer we will
17:30talk to you
17:30again next week all right see you guys

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