00:00what in the hell is todd munkin thinking about i mean what a bogus so wait wait so let me
00:04understand this okay let's break it down let's let's break it down to uh deshaun watson was
00:09crap yesterday as every clevelander knew was going to happen no but hey we didn't see the
00:15practice leading up to it nor did we by the way apparently none of us saw the film will tell
00:18you
00:18as tom will tell you you guys you didn't see the practice ahead of it this was a one of
00:21the best
00:21practices he's ever had a whole week of practices was amazing okay great and this insistence on
00:26gaslighting fans oh you know i think we just got to play better and coach better around him listen
00:31no one is going to fight you on the fact you coached like crap and played like crap yesterday
00:36but describing deshaun's performance as anything other than filth and german smut porn i don't know
00:43what the hell you're talking about and at some point todd if you want to be the head coach here
00:48and i'm trusting todd man i'm here to trust in todd man but i'm telling you if you want to
00:54be here
00:55longer than a year stop gaslighting fans deshaun looked like crap yesterday and and what i said
01:02in the open the one thing i actually got right is if they lost 34 to 10 he shouldn't be
01:08starting week
01:08two and the only reason you're doing it is either ego vanity or sheer incompetence that felt good which
01:15one makes you feel better on the ego the sheer incompetence i i'm going to circle sheer incompetence
01:21for 300 alex i think that's going to be the one i'm going to go with uh just an embarrassing
01:24display and they continue to double down this this doesn't feel any different than what they
01:28were telling us two or three weeks ago it just now feels like everybody when we say deshaun
01:32watson is cooked everyone's like oh oh so that that's what you guys were talking about and oh
01:37yeah when uh when munkin uh for weeks on end told us how great deshaun watson was looking and i
01:42said
01:42it's fishy i don't like it and i don't love how he's perpetuating this well you have the tape you
01:46see what happened in week one and what did he do today he came out and said the same thing
01:49he's been
01:50saying for weeks on end and you knew you and i'm sure it's ridiculous and let's just be clear
01:54because i'm not going to act like i'm the owner of the or proprietor of this take everyone knew the
01:59second they got a garbage time touchdown one good play from deshaun the browns were going to use that
02:04as justification to start deshaun again and that is insulting it is it is bad enough that we have
02:10people in jacksonville on the ground screaming obscenities at deshaun and again deshaun's not an
02:16innocent bystander here but you are putting him in an awful situation now you think it's bad now
02:21give it a couple weeks but it's it's bad enough that we have got that going on it's bad enough
02:25they had the hubris the audacity the unmitigated goal to start deshaun watson week one after that
02:32to look browns fans in the eyes look browns media in the eyes and any browns media who polishes that
02:38turd of a performance yesterday out them on social media tweet them let them know because i i gotta be
02:45honest with you there have been way too many people carrying water for the browns organization
02:48so they can get really nice interviews and that's great for your career but i don't mean nothing to
02:54browns fans that is absolutely embarrassing if anyone says anything about that game yesterday
02:59other than deshaun watson was caca and he was numero uno why you were oh and one and why you
03:05got
03:05your ass waxed in jacksonville coach riz joining us at 340 by the way might want to tune in for
03:09that
03:09one we'll see what coach has to say uh yeah i mean i i don't know what to tell you
03:13this was the
03:14most expected but then also to see it play out was one of the uh just more it's got embarrassing
03:20is the word of the day that's all it is you know even though we all could have seen this
03:22coming
03:23it was embarrassing you know what it is we don't know football you don't know football i don't know
03:27football anyone with a working set of eyes in cleveland apparently doesn't know football it's just
03:33that they're smarter than us i forgot this i forgot that in their mensa meetings oh i almost said a
03:40bad
03:40we're crappy quarterback actually means good quarterbacks you had some greek paradox that's
03:45what it actually means we actually won 34 to 10 yesterday it was actually the best game the opening
03:50game of brown's history fantastic huge phenomenal okay you got the hands going and everything too
04:00like you got it all you got it all all right lance rise land i can't tell if i'm scared
04:04or fired up
04:05right now i don't i don't know which one i like to keep i don't know which one i am
04:08right now
04:08hopefully both a little bit of both a little bit of it's funny i mean i was as pissed as
04:13i was
04:13yesterday and watching it uh this is again it's not there there's there's no like uh blanket that
04:19got pulled over our eyes here this is exactly what we all saw coming i mean how many people listening
04:23that we've talked to for weeks on end and told him deshaun watson cannot play football like this is
04:28this was always going to be the result was it not here's my challenge to todd munkin uh since he
04:33since
04:33we haven't had him on the show yet and by the way that's an open invitation anytime the todd
04:37father wants to come on here uh we'll ask him all the questions that the other media has already
04:43asked him so he's familiar with what his answer is going to be okay and uh but no i my
04:48my show your
04:49work right that used to be the thing i used to say all the time we haven't said it as
04:53much
04:53my uh really good things on film from deshaun no well i mean i saw the film i did that's
05:00why he
05:00referenced the 50 yard play yeah you know that's it that's the only thing he can go and hang his
05:04hat
05:04on to wow but by the way and so he's gonna he's gonna reference that how operationally sound was
05:10to show my gosh so we had it should have been three delay of game penalties the second one uh
05:14i thought munkin was gonna lose his mind uh but the third one should have been the third one nick
05:18he called a timeout and it was as if they finally realized like oh you know i can save deshaun
05:24watson
05:24when he's gonna have a delay of game penalty would have been nice if you use that on i don't
05:27know
05:27third and two in the red zone when it would have mattered the most but that's either here nor there
05:31listen if we want to be very clear about what happened yesterday the browns defense played
05:35horribly the offensive line i thought if you're on the defensive side of the ball listening to this
05:39right now you're not you're not escaping some wrath either by the way your day's coming it's
05:43just not in the first hour right now ben and we appreciate your f mason graham good job out of
05:48you you're a terrible interview but you seem like a great guy and you had a nice play yeah the
05:52sack
05:52was very fun i did like that but his pff grade's not great but the sack was fun probably pff
05:57do they
05:57even exist anymore but uh the defense wasn't very good we can single out individual performers
06:03uh obviously there were a lot of issues all across i thought the offensive line was okay
06:07but like i don't even know that there's a silver lining to gleam from yesterday but when it comes to
06:12the blame pie if we got a big old blame pie chart we're throwing out here yeah if you want
06:18to choose
06:18todd munkin that's fine i'm going with deshaun watson right from that very first pick
06:24it sucked the air out of the brown sidelines and there was one guy that could get it back
06:30all day long and he couldn't because he looked scared you don't want to use the word tentative
06:35that's fine he looked like a guy who didn't play football and hasn't played football for 20 years
06:41of his life yeah meanwhile trevor lawrence was going up and down the field and scoring on the
06:44first five drives uh trevor lawrence by the did he get jacked or something did i miss that like
06:49trevor lawrence all of a sudden looked really jacked uh i don't know what that was about uh but he
06:53was
06:53able to do whatever he wanted on the defensive side of the ball i blame munkin more than i blame
06:57deshaun watson though although deshaun's going to take a big bunch of this blame pie but uh the the
07:02penalties that were there the idea that he just didn't have anyone ready and needing to be where
07:06they were needed to be at like it was that was a that was a coaching failure top to bottom
07:10yeah and
07:11i'll be honest with you what i would assume that the browns would say to us if there weren't
07:16microphones around is well you thought that was bad operationally you should have seen it if
07:20if deshaun or if shador had been the starter and it's like cut it the only reason deshaun watson the
07:26two reasons that he was starting yesterday were mobility and i know he had 38 yards rushing guys
07:32he looked stiff and unathletic and then two was the operational side of things and he looked stiff
07:39and unathletic and like he had the slowest computing processor for a brain ever so like the opposite of
07:46gabriel the supercomputer the bare minimum and the thing is i already got it on nick talk nick talk
07:52and nick wilson says and somebody was like well the stats don't look too bad cool watch the game
07:57yeah that's going to be the end result like even i mean epa crushes them which is nice to see
08:02uh that's
08:02why that's why epa is to see it well it's just it's nice that even though they they don't we
08:06don't
08:06have a perfect system for any of this and uh uh but yes if you go by like traditional stats
08:12like
08:12passer rating and such it's not going to look awful but you had to watch the game you had to
08:16understand that in the final two drives is where they got all of their offense and in that last
08:20drive where they go 90 yards and he's got a 50 yard touchdown it's going to make it look salvageable
08:24he was awful and there's no polite way to put it 216-474-0092 who's the most to blame for
08:31the
08:31debacle down in jacksonville don't worry if you if you're not sure we're going to have another chance
08:37to look at the entire operation again this sunday down yonder and the good news is the guy we traded
08:43to get the guy who's been the worst trade in nfl history we get to see him too it's going
08:48to be a
08:48lot of fun let's go with jordan and cape corral florida hey guys yeah i got you what's up buddy
08:56hey i mean i feel like we're in deja vu again going through the hugh jackson johnny manzel era i
09:03mean
09:04you deshaun watson does not want to be in cleveland and we don't want him there and it's quite obvious
09:10you know my my big fear is uh we're going into brook park you know are we going to run
09:15todd
09:15munkin out there a brand new stadium or is this just a bridge you know another bridge uh coach
09:20until we find the guy but i can't imagine if todd munkin's going to be able to i mean i
09:26mean the
09:26fan bases aren't like we're going to end up hating him listen you know jordan we got to get a
09:31better
09:31sample size here so i think another three years of deshaun watson another three years of todd
09:36munkin i think we'll be able to say whether deshaun is a decent quarterback and whether todd
09:41can coach his way out of a paperback you know just another three years just about was that about 40
09:45now 51 games last head coach it took six years for one playoff win and we're still on the gm
09:50that
09:50was hired at the same time that's true they do take a while i mean that that's where everybody's
09:54talking about the blame but you know really the blame is going to be whoever made the call to start
09:59deshaun watson if that really lies with the monk man or if that's a haslam thing or if that's a
10:05berry thing but whoever's making this call to to actually start this man we appreciate it
10:12jordan thanks and we're never really going to find out that answer i would imagine but it's either one
10:16of two things either munkin was listening to haslam and berry and made the call in concert with him
10:22which again not great if that's the reality or door number two munkin made the decision on his own
10:28independent of haslam and berry and that means he's shown you guys a level of incompetence that
10:33can't be trusted for i don't know the end of time so like this either way it's not great i
10:37know this
10:37is devolved into uh shador versus deshaun and there's just people who want to disqualify shador
10:43and i i understand he's a fifth round pick he's all this stuff it shouldn't be about that the fact
10:49that we got to a quarterback competition between uh shador and deshaun that in and of itself is a
10:56gigantic act of ego and and honestly insult to the browns fan base and we'll play andrew berry you're
11:03gonna hear from andrew berry he was on the pregame show explaining and you're not gonna like the
11:08response either so if you just want to say well what are they gonna do play shador no about six
11:13months ago they could have had any other quarterback that was available including kirk cousins or geno
11:18smith those guys signed elsewhere and oh by the way both of those guys just got wins yesterday yeah
11:24it's interesting uh and even within like the andrew berry side of this i mean you don't think
11:29it's an accident that at the podium yesterday munkin couldn't with confidence say deshaun watson
11:33was going to be the quarterback 100 percent week two he had to go be had to go huddle he
11:37had to go
11:37huddle with the thought partners and then they had to come out today and then obviously he could say
11:41yeah deshaun's going to be the guy i'm convinced i'm convinced i don't want i would i would give
11:45great money he couldn't do it yeah it's not as good i don't think it's his call i don't think
11:49he i think
11:49he legitimately has to like bandy together with these guys and do uh the thought collaborative
11:54and uh part of this that they always do i would give great amount of monies to listen in to
11:59that
11:59huddle up of just like well deshaun wasn't good yeah he wasn't okay should we play him again yeah
12:06why don't we play him again i don't know that it's like a physical huddle up i think they're eating
12:10popcorn while doing it i mean they're probably like a big board room is it like a teams think think
12:14like secession or billion style boardroom okay like real glass everywhere because there's always
12:19glass everywhere around these boardrooms modern or post-modern or pre-modern and you know maybe
12:24some browns helmets just kind of flanking everywhere to make it seem like we're still football guys
12:28and then they meet and then they talk about it and then andrew berry is basically like hey so you're
12:32gonna play deshaun still and then munkin's like i believe in that too uh and nobody knows if he's
12:38actually serious or not he just likes the money attached to all this and then they go forth i actually
12:41would really like it if it was like like they okay we got an hour meeting and it was like
12:4550
12:45minutes talking about jacksonville and the travel and then the last 10 minutes it was like are we
12:50gonna start deshaun yeah yeah why not why not yeah all right it's like a bullet point they almost
12:53forget to get to it it's like oh before we get out of here what are we what are we
12:56doing a
12:57quarterback next week i forget it was number one on the agenda here ah missed it
13:01you
13:01you
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