00:02which i did have somebody at friday night touchdown i was in strongsville last week
00:06they uh they know what that reference is by the way i'll let you guys figure it out and i
00:11said
00:11thank you very much for listening and yep that's absolutely the reference also uh speaking of
00:15friday night touchdown 7 45 about last night we're gonna have to get into this glenville thing a
00:19little bit this is uh limo's hitting the phones last night glenville's been kicked out of the
00:26ohsa playoff well yeah it's been a it's been a year where so many schools have been investigated
00:31you know the masslin thing could go to the state supreme court and yet the playoffs are going on
00:38remind me about right now the playoffs are going on the podcast on tuesday why my theory about why
00:42this is such a big damn deal okay and i know there's a lot of masslin people listen to the
00:48show
00:48ken's from perry relax i think i know why it's a big deal and i'll tell you why in the
00:55emerging
00:55podcast scene coming up on tuesday which by the way we talked about mckinley masslin and the last
01:00emerging podcast scene you can hear that 92 3 the fan.com and on the free odyssey app it's brought
01:04to you by the fine folks at extend technologies x-t-e-n-d-a-v.com i want to
01:10get back to jared
01:11verse here in a second however jeffrey simmons was traded you see the haul they got back for jeffrey
01:17simmons yeah and some people were like whoa wait a minute kenny laser eyes buried not so laser eyes
01:23a couple of first round picks a couple of first rounders right a couple of first rounders so it's
01:28a it's it's a haul man like they took advantage of it i think timing is everything one i i
01:36think
01:36i guess maybe not maybe miles garrett looks at it differently like the first thing i think it was
01:43miles garrett has a no trade had a no trade clause and maybe he just was like chicago and cleveland
01:48are
01:48the same to me i understand that that's a wild thing to say for some people he might just look
01:53at cold weather's cold weather i don't know i don't know what he thinks right he might just think
02:00i'll just stay in cleveland i don't need to go to chicago i don't know how the guy thinks i
02:04don't
02:06that's one thing i can't guarantee i'd be able to trade him to chicago i'm just thinking of teams
02:10that give up you know a whole lot right so the bears gave up a bunch for jeffrey simmons the
02:16other
02:16thing is is that timing of it one's during the off season one's in the thick of the regular season
02:21so what does tennessee need tennessee needs picks we need picks but we also because we didn't think
02:28we were going to be this good to start off this year we're five and two we also didn't think
02:32that
02:32jared verse would have no sacks through seven games we also didn't think we'd have 11 different guys
02:37with sacks and jared verse doing it still a pretty good job without the sacks so you get two first
02:44round
02:44picks right my whole thing with the two first round picks is those are only good ideas like i think
02:50how how much of the population of browns fans think that we're not really worried about jared verse
02:56will be fine with him uh probably the percentage probably still high still very high so i have a
03:03bona fide nfl football player as opposed to i don't know man i could go get myself another reuben bain
03:11with a draft with a draft pick and we could have that problem that they're having right now in
03:15tampa i could go out and get myself i could go out and get myself a khalil mac and he
03:20could be a
03:21bona fide hall of famer i know what i'm getting in jared verse he may not be miles garrett he
03:26might
03:26not be all pro at the end of it he could still end up being a jag he's still going
03:30to be a solid
03:30player all right and maybe he's not first round quality like let me think worst case scenario
03:36worst case scenario maybe not first round quality i still have a solid football player on my football
03:40team and my entire defense looks good i will still take that over the unknown he's young he was only
03:47going into year three you got a bona fide player i don't think it's that big of an issue i
03:52don't yeah
03:53it's easy to say that when the team's five and two and these young guys look as good as they
03:56are
03:56i know that that would sound like excuse making to a lot of people but what would people be saying
04:01if we were two and five and deshaun watson didn't have the heroics right i think there'd be a lot
04:05a lot of questions yeah and i think a lot of people would see this differently and i think if
04:09i said the same thing they'd be coming after me for making excuses you've got to pay jared verse
04:14like there is this contract extension which right now we're not really talking a lot about because it
04:20would seem like if jared verse doesn't start getting some legitimate production like what what
04:26is he going to command right now i think if anything fans would be saying oh you can lowball now
04:31because he hasn't really done that much the problem is he's a big part of your miles garrett trade so
04:37is
04:37that leverage for the jared verse side of things like you traded for me you're gonna pay me yes
04:41absolutely i i told you last segment now i i don't know you know the overall market value i i
04:47struck out
04:48earlier this week when i was like well you're not gonna pay deshaun watson 46 million dollars for a
04:52year to come back next year and you were like yes you are and i looked i go oh boy
04:56i was wrong about
04:56that one you were right with jared verse i don't want to overcorrect but it's like hey if he finishes
05:03the season with five sacks and we're a playoff team you're gonna pay jared verse this is gonna happen
05:10and you're gonna pay him a lot of money and you're gonna structure that contract over a longer period
05:14of time so you can not just fit jared verse in so you could fit other guys into that salary
05:18cap as
05:18well including possibly the quarterback depending on how things go right so that's how that's gonna work
05:24but i i did see some of the reaction and people did want us to re to respond to this
05:29or to comment on this
05:31i don't think andrew berry didn't get hoodwinked bamboozled anything like that you still got
05:36a player that's currently in a jersey first round picks or ideas their hopes this is a guy who's in
05:41a jersey
05:42i got another first round pick that's gonna be a hope but it's still gonna be a gamble
05:45i don't think jared verse is a gamble if i think at the bare minimum he's a solid football player
05:53maybe just another guy but i don't think that he's this well you were a former first round pick and
05:59look
05:59what happened to you i don't think we're gonna have that conversation about jared we had a few callers
06:04talk about the the transition with the 4-3 and the 3-4 does any of that um i think
06:10that there's i think
06:11that there's possibly part of that and also he's very young and i look at this you remember when miles
06:15first got here we had a couple of guys and i know that when miles first got here you and
06:19i were just
06:19kind of together for like we've always been friends since this station started but this is
06:24the first time like we were on together and there were people who were close to certain coaches
06:33be careful i'm saying this and they were critical of miles saying that he's a this wasn't my words
06:43he was a one trick pony quote unquote that is a quote a one trick pony and they go he's
06:51got to
06:51develop other moves he's got to develop other things or eventually it's going to catch up with
06:56him kenny he's a on my dead mother he's a genetic freak he'll be great to start things will have
07:06to
07:06change he will have to develop all right jared verse is in year three and when i get the caller
07:11chuck and
07:12parma talking about a bull rush that chuck and parma is right about that jared verse is going
07:16to have to take the moves to the next level that's going to come with experience so if you don't
07:20start
07:21off as the freak i know i'm sounding like scott steiner right now if you don't start off as the
07:25genetic freak like miles garrett is you're going to be behind miles garrett because he ain't miles
07:30garrett so miles garrett could go out there with one move and still be faster and bring himself 12 inches
07:36from the ground when he gets when he gets horizontal and still come up with 10 sacks in a season
07:41because he's just that much better and more athletic than everybody else jared verse is going
07:45to have to do some different things and that's going to take time so those couple of things are
07:50mixing but still my defense is good so yeah jared verse is talking tough right now and it puts more
07:55pressure on them to win and it puts more pressure on him to have sacks and that will certainly be
08:00discussed if they don't do either of those two things on monday but i don't worry about his future
08:05right now i don't i don't and i don't think that they worry about his future of paying him i
08:09don't think
08:10they're going to pay him just because they've traded for him but i think that they're going to
08:13still pay him based on the future and that this guy is hard worker and i don't i don't worry
08:17about
08:18his lack of moves or anything like that compared to what some other people might be that's all
08:23and i do and jeffrey simmons i think that jeffrey simmons is probably one of the better kept secrets
08:28in the nfl and if it weren't for him playing for tennessee if he played for seattle if he played
08:32for
08:33the rams if he played for the bears as we're going to see i i think that he would be
08:37i think that
08:39you're going to find jeffrey simmons and aaron donald category at some point let's actually we
08:43kind of handled them last i really do yeah and that's what made me feel so much better about
08:46austin barber and zion johnson last week is that i thought that he they did a great job i thought
08:50austin austin barber was remarkable on sunday 216-474-0092 i'm going to get some of you guys on
08:57on all that and are we getting called out tone i think saying that we're not either either we're lying
09:04to ourselves about the the magnitude of this game or we're not making a big enough deal because
09:10we're not treating it like life or death ken carm and anthony lima not life or death on the fan
09:16you
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