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On NFL Trade Deadline Day, Jim Costa and Jon Jansen open up the text inbox and phone lines to fiery debate regarding Detroit Lions General Manager Brad Holmes.
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00:05text pouring in we'll get the phone calls in the mix we got two grand slam coming up at
00:087 25 today is the day the deadline day in the nfl text says sit back in your chair take
00:15a sip of
00:16coffee watch the real gms go to work brad is afraid to go for it another says why does everyone
00:22get so bricked up about draft picks what hardware have they produced
00:27and if you wanted a safety referring to cisco why not go get bates oh wait dollar store brad
00:35you're putting your chips into the kirby uh sweepstakes question mark bates went for a 2027
00:41second round pick and a future fifth atlanta's paying most of his salary they gave the jags a
00:45huge discount that's how you get better not cisco this is brad's ego getting in the way kirby's his
00:51pick he can't wait to collect receipts when kirby ends up playing i think that's just a a prelude
00:58to what happens today if nothing happens by four o'clock or you know nothing of significance
01:03happens oh yeah these texts are just the tip of the iceberg uh one calls you a brad bot says
01:09john
01:09stop being a brad bot brad is a crumb bum he picks up the scraps of other teams and will
01:14never make a
01:14major move greg in woodhaven zedaria smith was a day major move it was one that at the time
01:25was the best available edge that was being traded let's go to ed ed good morning hey guys you know
01:34listen you guys this morning a lot of people have nailed it he's not going to give up those trades
01:38and here's the thing the organization he come from didn't care about those those draft picks or excuse
01:43me he's not going to give up draft picks the rams didn't care about draft picks and like i told
01:47the
01:48screener three of the four teams last year were top five defenses in the championship round in the
01:54last 10 years the four 40 teams in the championship rounds have 37 have had top five defenses so my
02:01i
02:01look at this team right now with this defense was constructed the windows closed what brad holmes is
02:06going to do today at four o'clock if he doesn't address it and fix it fast he will put
02:10the locks on the
02:10window because these players are getting one year older next year and you're wasting their careers
02:15by not fixing the one dang thing that has it's hindered him the entire time he's been here the
02:22dang defense right and i hope that they don't get seduced into the recent success i i like that the
02:27defense has played better it's important that the defense has played better and it's because the
02:31defense has played better you need to trade for more help right like now that you're effectively in
02:36this thing that's a reason to add not a reason to sit back i agree and in terms of the
02:43window a
02:43couple of years ago i pushed back on the you know it's a it's a small window i thought it
02:49was much
02:50more wide open than most people probably at that time i don't i don't believe that anymore i think
02:56your window is smaller now than it was a couple of years ago because you have handed out these big
03:01contracts and at some point you know because brad doesn't seem to have the same chops as a howie
03:09roseman in regards to how to manipulate the cap if that's the case then your window is much smaller
03:17and this is a time to go for it dave you're next you're on 97.1 hey good morning lads
03:25um i wonder
03:27one of these times when you have dan on i would love to know why we never get to see
03:32ahmed and i
03:33don't know why but i just always have had a feeling about that guy the only time we got to
03:38see him was
03:38in the preseason game against the bengal starters two sacks including a strip sack i think he could
03:44bolster the defensive line that being said i'd be okay with brad standing pat today i think we have
03:52too many holes and i think there's too many teams who have already surpassed us that there's no
03:58player who's going to make a great difference to make us a real contender so you think it would be
04:05a
04:05an exercise in futility sadly yes um even against some of the worst teams it's always been the last
04:13possession we're squeaking these games out and i think i think we will make the playoffs
04:19but i don't think we're going to be able to hang once we do
04:25but my idea look he might be right but can you get 10 better can you get 5 better can
04:32you position
04:32yourself in a one score game to advance right you know you're in that that moment it's the playoffs
04:38it's win or go home the moves you make now could pay off and you've got a top level offense
04:44okay it didn't play like it against the dolphins but you've got a top level offense
04:50what type of what level of defense do you need to be playing with week in week out to complement
04:58that top five offense and take a shot at an nfc championship game but ultimately
05:04win that and play for a super bowl give yourself a better chance to beat the 49ers
05:09and even the bears right now you know caleb uh mvp talk last week he has it in two home
05:16games
05:17against the vikings and the buccaneers play poorly against good defenses against defensive what i would
05:22call wizards and flores and bowls four picks the other night he only scored three points in that rain
05:28game before he went out really late with the injury he played almost all that game yeah so the bears
05:33there is a weakness there it looks like if you have a better defense or a good defense
05:38you can hold that offense down and steal the game i think the lions i'm going to say it right
05:43now
05:43i think they are knocking on the door as a super bowl threat i think this season has trended pretty
05:49good health wise despite what happened recently um they are in position to accelerate yes they're
05:58ramping up i think campbell i thought talk about for the season i think he thinks they pushed too
06:03hard and they were sprinting in regular season they needed to make it a marathon i think they've made it
06:08a marathon let's let's go here it's time it's time for the gm to deliver i i guess my biggest
06:14thing
06:14is it's not even us it's the team i feel like this team has earned for their gm to go
06:22out and hurt the
06:23future maybe a little bit to help this team now it's time it's it's been time this team played for
06:30the spot in the super bowl in 2023 i think they i think they are on the verge of being
06:36back to there
06:38this i think this team has that potential but they need help yeah i think the frustration is so since
06:42that moment you make the nfc title game you're you're up 17 nothing you're close to a super bowl you
06:46can taste it the only reason they added the following year was because aiden got hurt and then
06:53they didn't do anything last year and there is serious doubt whether they'll do anything impactful
06:59this year right i don't think majority of people thought they'd be six and two i think there's some
07:04people that thought that jim you guys were a lot of a lot of listeners were saying this team won't
07:09make the playoffs this has 10 7 written all over it they've got a harder schedule ahead they've done
07:14everything to earn it i'll say this right now if i was a player on this team and he doesn't
07:19do
07:19something that really matters in helping my team as i would feel like dylan larkin did a couple years
07:24ago at the deadline i would these guys have earned it it's the window it's got golf's prime is right
07:32now
07:32it's never going to be easier and if it doesn't work so what we're not going to hold you against
07:38them
07:38you went for it right nobody dave dombrowski cost him his job finally but he kept going for it and
07:46going for it yeah i don't think people killed him because they added david price oh they got
07:49bounced in the first round i mean i mean do you miss robbie ray right no you like that he
07:54went for
07:54you upset that they added prince fielder you know what i mean like in the grand scheme of things those
07:59moves quote didn't lead to a championship and no one looks back with regrets the word i don't want to
08:04have any regrets you're right this team has earned a level of attention this team has earned themselves
08:10a status as a contender what are you going to do so that you don't have any regrets at in
08:15mid-january
08:16because i don't want to see the season end in mid-january and us go well if only we'd given
08:20up a
08:20second round pick to get someone who could start and make a big play on a big third down and
08:24to pile
08:24on i was they lost one of their captains here okay yeah let's do it man just do it brad
08:30you be the
08:31winner today let's let instead of the packers adding jonathan taylor or the vikings getting
08:36daniel jones or the rams landing some big receiver going and getting a nico collins or something like
08:41that or a brian thomas it's like you be that guy 735 we're going to talk about names 10 names
08:48for the
08:48lions and uh we want to know about the move that would knock your socks off whether that's in that
08:52list of 10 names or not that's coming up at 735 we've got the two grand slam at 725 let's
08:57get back to
08:58the phones adam and gibraltar adam good morning hey good morning guys how you doing good um i i
09:05again i don't really expect brad to make a solid move um i think the only guy that i think
09:12would
09:13be on my radar i mean he'd have probably to give up first or a second round value is probably
09:17zach
09:18bond um but again there's that whole jack campbell situation so maybe he's not going to want to go
09:25for a linebacker um i would like one i think he had value to the team but again when you
09:31look at
09:32brad when he was with the rams i don't remember a time when the rams made a big splashy move
09:40for draft
09:41picks and everything um i mean you guys you know might be able to you know tell me if they
09:46did or
09:46not but i don't remember a time before he came here where they made a big splashy move for a
09:53you know
09:54at the trade deadline or even the off season i think they just kind of like stayed put and now
09:59we kind of see like it's happening here in detroit and then now with the rams without you know homes
10:05being there they're giving away all their draft picks so i'm just kind of curious if it is a brad
10:13thing like he needs to learn you know he's drafted this team to be an up-and-coming team i
10:18mean they're
10:19here there's a good solid core here but when you have a good solid core and guys you're giving
10:25extensions to you have to learn to add other pieces to said core and he hasn't done that um
10:33which is kind of you know it's it's flustering a little bit just because here in detroit we get we
10:40fans
10:40we see the team we see the core but he hasn't added any meaningful pieces to the core so it's
10:50it's kind of mind-boggling in a way because we fans yeah we're not we're not in the front office
10:56we're not this we're not that but we see from the outside in what this team needs what this like
11:01they need to add but i think brad is okay being you know average and selling tickets
11:08see i've never drawn that comparison like i i don't imagine that brad gets off on renewals
11:13i don't think he's incentivized beyond i guess general job security but he's a competitor what i don't
11:20get is why it hasn't translated to a competitive mindset when the clock's ticking on deadline day
11:25right and the other guy's offering a nickel more than you are you know he's offering an extra pick
11:30an extra day three slot you know it's got to translate yeah and i mean if you go back and
11:38look at the rams you know famous in a what 21 and sense of f them picks but they actually
11:46started
11:47before that and it was 2018 with branded cooks they sent a first rounder to new england um and
11:53then it was jalen ramsey in 2019 that was two first round picks and a fourth ramsey ended up making
11:58an
11:58impact for them on their super bowl season yeah and then after that it was you know uh matthew
12:04stafford then it was vaughn miller and now we're talking about miles garrett trent mcduffie
12:10all by the way guys they've won the super bowl and won more playoff games than we have yes
12:17all right uh we are up against it we'll get to heather's news the two grand slam more deadline talk
12:21including those 10 names and uh the move that would knock your socks off it's 97 one

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