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Nick Harris joined Shan, RJ, and Bobby following the Cowboys' win over Indianapolis. Harris discussed Jerry standing pat at the deadline, contract outlooks for George Pickens and Joey Porter Jr., expectations for the 49ers, and more.
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00:00good morning nick how are you doing fantastic how are we fellas are you uh you dealing with like
00:04talking ball slide protections or whatever with brian schottenheimer earlier this week
00:09what was that all about yeah uh yeah that's a good good question right off the bat sean
00:16but uh we didn't play it i wasn't gonna do you dirty like that i just wanted to ask you
00:22yeah uh they utilized a lot more slide protections this past week and uh tried to get an answer on
00:28it and uh yeah just took a couple steps to get through it that's all a couple slides a couple
00:33slides on over uh you are not surprised that the dallas cowboys did not make a trade or substantial
00:40move yesterday right no not surprised i i kind of expected that going in and i i frankly i think
00:46that's probably the right move you know it's obviously they didn't have a lot of draft capital
00:50to work with if you talk about go out and and try to acquire a piece if you were going
00:55to do that
00:55it was likely going to be a player for player type of situation and i'm not sure that you have
01:00you know guys on the roster that would make sense in a player for player type of deal right now
01:04and
01:05so you know that made sense from that perspective and then if you want to you know talk about the
01:09selling aspect of things i i'll hear the argument on why they probably should have sold at the
01:13deadline but you know i i think too you do have an opportunity to re-sign some of these guys
01:18that
01:18you probably could have uh sold at the deadline too whether it be a george pickens you know i know
01:22some people were throwing out the name kenny clark as a potential piece to sell at the deadline
01:26as well but you know i i think both of those guys you re-evaluate those situations in the offseason
01:30and go from there we were talking about this a little bit earlier nick if the san francisco game
01:35would have been this week like this past week and you could have seen how you played against san
01:39francisco do you think that would have changed their approach in any way like it would have if they
01:43would have lost the game they would have felt more secure and okay let's move some of these pieces if
01:47they would have won the game they would have said all right let's be more aggressive in buying
01:50i don't think it would have enticed them to sell any more than they probably felt going into the
01:55deadline yesterday but it maybe could have enticed them to buy a bit more just because they did have
02:00the cap space you know they had that freedom to do so you know going into yesterday and you know
02:04yeah
02:04if you go and you beat san francisco and you show hey that's the team leading the nfc conference right
02:10now i mean that would make sense maybe that you know you'd feel a little bit more empowered to go
02:14buy
02:14at the deadline but you know neither here nor there nick or are organizationally do you think
02:21they're more fearful of selling guys off and then not being able to replace them and being bad for
02:28a long time are they more scared of irrelevance uh i would say probably i i would probably say that
02:37selling those guys off and and probably regretting that later is that probably what you're asking their
02:41shop yeah like yeah like regretted it two years back because you can't you haven't found the
02:44replacements yeah i would probably say that just because they are still justifying the michael
02:50parsons trade you know and and we're you know a year and some change uh after you know that that
02:55result and so yeah i would probably lean toward that and so whether it be you know a guy like
02:59george
02:59pickens for example i do think ryan flannoy you know if they do make the decision in the offseason to
03:04move on from pickens i think ryan flannoy is in a position in his career to step into that role
03:09and
03:09you know i he's he showed that he's worthy of uh you know every increased opportunity that he's
03:15gotten throughout his career he showed up at a big time on sunday in indianapolis uh but it's more so
03:20you want the guy who is the you know reliable contested catch winner on the outside the the big
03:26threat who is still you know a top 10 receiver in the nfl whenever he is on and how can
03:31he pair with
03:32cd lamb on the same token so um yeah i think that's probably the the question that they have at
03:38the end of
03:38the day when it comes to the pickens scenario let's talk about pickens because last week i believe it
03:43was exactly on this day later on in the day i think it was on haymaker you were talking about
03:49what you think happens with joey porter and george pickens of course the aggregating snakes uh picked
03:56that up uh twisted your words a little bit you felt that you had to go ahead and clarify on
04:01social
04:01media so let's just reset what actually happened with your opinion on porter and pickens yeah just
04:08what i think is going to happen in the offseason and this is purely my opinion um adding all the
04:14aggregators out there um i think i do think that george pickens and the cowboys they get together and
04:20they figure out what a long-term deal looks like just because the cowboys want him here long term
04:25and he wants to be here long term and so you know if you have those two sides already at
04:29that
04:29understanding then you know i think they have a i think they have a starting place for you know getting
04:33that long-term extension complete and then from there it's a franchise tag for joey porter jr but
04:39i see that a lot more again opinion i see that as a lot more of a placeholder than it
04:44would have been
04:44for pickens last year just because there's going to be a lot of freedom for this team after june 1st
04:49and obviously that uh extension deadline for the franchise tag players goes all the way through july 15th
04:56and so you know it would give them that freedom after june 1st to work an extension with porter at
05:00that
05:00point in time uh but that's just my opinion we're looking far ahead and you know still have you know
05:05eight games to to worry about as well so i'm surprised over to hear like the mutual pickens
05:12love george for here and them for george because overall and you just pick this apart uh as i lay
05:18out these things where you see fit overall feels like it's a disappointing season for george he's on
05:23my fantasy team so i feel strong in saying that like an expert uh certainly not what it was last
05:28year
05:28i know cd missed some time then we're talking about route running and we're talking about effort
05:34and we're talking about flannoy out there for blocking um why why doesn't that create more
05:41separation between the two versus them signing an extension with each other and george for that
05:47matter maybe feeling like he's underused yeah well let me ask you is is the standard for george
05:53because when he first arrived here is it what he did last year or is it to be you know
05:57squarely
05:58in a number two role i think after last year last year was kind of the standard
06:03yeah i'm saying going into last year going into last year uh yeah i mean you take him as a
06:09really
06:09good number two receiver um yeah you're happy with that and so you know if he ends up he's on
06:15pace to
06:16finish the year right around a thousand yards just over it if he ends up ending the year with those
06:21numbers i think you firmly look at a number two situation and then you don't have to worry about
06:26potentially paying him more than cd lamb and i think that would probably cause a little bit more
06:29issues and then you got to figure out you know a raise for lamb on the same hand as well
06:33i think
06:34this is kind of shaping up to be a situation where they pay him what they want to pay him
06:38around that
06:3930 to 32 range and you know they move on and it's actually a little bit easier actually i think
06:44it
06:44would be more difficult if pickens had a year like he had a year ago and you're trying to figure
06:49out
06:49what to pay pickens at the end of the day and if you end up having to pay him 38
06:5239 40 then you have a guy
06:54cd lamb who's having a fantastic season this year second the nfl receiving i think jackson smith
06:59and jig was the only guy you could point at and say he's been better in the league so far
07:02this year
07:03and you're like hey he's making 34 and a half and he's clearly better than george so you're but you're
07:08you're a believer in the internet called keeping george's numbers down to keep the price down
07:13i don't know about all that i don't know if it's back at the office but you heard that harry
07:19that's limited to 90 catches keep his numbers what'd you say nick so let's get the tinfoil
07:24hat going yeah there you go nick even uh four star telegram joining us here nick harris
07:29yeah i know i know i love nick even though he was more offended over that than the shoddy
07:36opening question or accusing him of the conspiracy we were we were in uh the press box in green bay
07:42i
07:42think and nick he was like look and i saw this guy from the back doesn't this look just like
07:45you nick
07:46and he's like no it's nothing like i would never wear that uh nick harris from the forward star
07:52telegram here with us uh nick even just texted me right joey porter jr um how much are you buying
08:00or
08:01pushing back again since we're gonna talk conspiracy theories uh jerry yesterday saying shut it all down
08:06100 injury related he's not trying to show them any sort of contract hold out with some of his
08:12sitting out in games yeah he has genuinely been battling this ankle injury since that houston game
08:18that he he debuted in what was it over a month ago now and that ankle has kind of turned
08:23into a heel
08:24situation as well and it was more of a heel issue on sunday when uh they got to the stadium
08:30and you know
08:30tried to try to make it run and it just it wouldn't work and so i think honestly he did
08:35just need a
08:36week to sit down i would be surprised if it ends up being a multi-week absence uh but yeah
08:40i don't
08:41subscribe to the theory that you know it's contract related or anything like that bobby hill
08:44are you surprised they haven't made more headway on a deal with him or that was never going to happen
08:52i don't think it was ever going to happen uh you know think about it from like the picket's
08:56perspective right he had the trial year last year obviously was fantastic there were still some
09:01things that they wanted out of him you know coming out of that year and i kind of view that
09:05as a
09:06similar situation as porter here it's like all right this is the trial situation porter understood it as
09:10well you know it's why he decided to play whenever he did arrive in dallas uh it's why he was
09:15comfortable with doing it without the contract in hand and so yeah i don't i don't think it was ever
09:20going to be a situation where they they signed him you know without knowing what the services were
09:24going to look like nick karis forward star telegram every single wednesday at this time here on sean and
09:29rj nick i'm i'm gonna hit you with one more conspiracy or not even a conspiracy just one more
09:35point of discussion that i've been kicking around the last couple days demarvian overshown ends up
09:41having the penalty uh with the running onto the field and something that you know shoddy called
09:47unacceptable demarvian overshown apologized to everybody um there's between the captains and
09:53the leadership council there's 12 people who've been named leaders on this football team by the team
09:58and demarvian overshown isn't one of those 12 which is one out of every five players on this team
10:03is there is there any sort of question at all you think from the cowboys about just maturity or
10:10anything else that we've never asked really before about him but it did get me started wondering why
10:14is he not on these leadership councils why is he not more in an official position of leadership on the
10:19team yeah i think that's a good question i don't necessarily have that answer for you and
10:23you know a lot of those guys too have had you know a lot of on-field success uh guys
10:28in the
10:28leadership council the captains i mean let's go down the list right like dak prescott tyler smith
10:33quentin williams brandon aubry brian anger i mean these are guys that have established themselves on
10:37the field in the league and overshown obviously availability has been his biggest thing that's
10:41probably what i point to but uh also you know demarvian overshown has still been a a uh you know
10:47big voice in the locker room and and it's allowed them to um you know last year i go back
10:53to the
10:53philadelphia game um when they they came back from the 21 dust nothing deficit and it was his
10:58words in the locker room that you know teammates were talking about his and quinnon williams that
11:03teammates were talking about how they were able to kind of flip the script and get back into that
11:06ball game so you know i still feel that he is respected by his teammates but maybe more of an
11:10availability thing that would just be my my my question there nick how do you weigh the defensive
11:16steps being taken after or during the indianapolis game versus it being indianapolis yeah that's a
11:24bad win you know and i i do i do subscribe to the theory that it's hard to win in
11:29the nfl and like
11:30every win is is you know that's that's earned but i do think there are rare outliers and i kind
11:35of view
11:35this as one of those just because that is a team that was fire selling ahead of the deadline don't
11:41look
11:41super motivated to win football games at the moment and their offense is putrid and uh you let
11:47them not only get back into that ball game but have a pretty dang good chance at winning that ball
11:51game and so i don't feel like the team performed uh from a from a mental standpoint any better than
11:59they did against arizona the week prior um i i do feel like they just went against somehow a worse
12:05offense than what arizona had had to throw out i will say the defense did play better you know they
12:10only gave up one run more than seven yards only a couple of explosives in the past game and you
12:15know that's that's incremental improvement but um you know when you produce over 500 yards of total
12:20offense you got to score more than 27 and uh uh even even going into that final drive they had
12:26uh had
12:27just three points in the second half before they put it together and then scored with javante
12:30williams so the execution thing is such a big deal and and you know we we kind of made fun
12:36of
12:37quinn and williams a week ago when he said it was 32 times in five minutes but it's true i
12:41mean they
12:41they have really struggled to execute on a consistent basis and i would say maybe the
12:46washington game is the only one we could point out in week two and being like okay hey they executed
12:50that day aside from that it's it's flooding and nick it seems like that feeling has been permeating
12:57through the building i know schottenheimer to me has been more downtrodden somber at the press
13:02conferences over the past couple of weeks but the other day i heard calvin ask him at the end are
13:06you okay like i know we're supposed to be talking about a win here and then yesterday jerry kind of
13:11had that same tone do you think that they are now taking on the approach of judging wins based upon
13:17quality of play and not just a win is a win i they are very much in the category of
13:22a win is a win
13:23you know they treat it the same uh you know we saw that post game we saw how you know
13:27it's it's
13:27affected you know this week for them but uh hey they have an opportunity on sunday to to put a
13:33lot
13:33of these narratives to bed if they go out there and prove that they can contend with the san
13:37francisco 49ers much less beat them because truthfully what i'm expecting on sunday is for
13:43san francisco to roll into town and win by double digits just because that's the team that they have
13:47shown to be through the first nine weeks and while the cowboys have shown to be an inconsistent
13:51roller coaster at times and while i do believe they have the talent on paper to contend with a team
13:57like that they haven't proven it and and you are what you are you are what you show you are
14:01and the cowboys have shown that they are you know kind of a whirlwind and you know san francisco is
14:06a
14:06team built to handle those type of whirlwinds right now pretty easily making me feel better about my
14:10bet so you're anticipating beat down or lower double digits uh i i consider anything you know 14 or more
14:20blowout in the nfl so that's probably where i'm expecting it to be nick one more for you the the
14:27running back situation now of tyler goodson out they signed kendra miller yesterday from tcu but
14:32is do you think the plan will be that kendra miller is going to just get up to speed real
14:36quick that's
14:36going to be their number two or are they going to work in izzy or some of these other options
14:40that
14:40they may have behind uh javante williams yeah i think it's truly going to be a competition there
14:45with israel abanaconda jay sean corbin is also still on the practice squad and then um yeah kendra miller
14:51is going to get worked into things today and so yeah you have those three guys who you expect to
14:55see at
14:56elevation uh or two for uh you know one or the other uh tyler goodson dealing with about a three
15:01week injury but you know we'll see what that ends up looking like for tyler goodson um and yeah i
15:06think
15:06kendra miller is a fascinating ad i really liked him at tcu um and he just never really panned out
15:11new orleans and then he tore his acl last season and so you wonder if he still has that same
15:16juice
15:16uh but we'll see as time goes on but he's reunited with a running back coach derrick foster and
15:21hey big shout out to running back coach derrick foster by the way he's done a really good job
15:25of evaling uh that's certain guys tyler goodson was one of his evals as well obviously he's worked
15:30with kendra miller and this run game has been you know pretty consistent over these last few weeks
15:34you know and in the winning at indianapolis 170 plus yards just from those two running backs alone
15:39and it looked like that they had the the the perfect complement to javante williams despite
15:44you know the injury to malik davis right before the season started and so yeah i think derrick foster's
15:49done a really good job of building that room great stuff as always brother thank you we appreciate it
15:55thank you guys you have a good one