00:01We'll do it now.
00:01We'll do it now.
00:02Absolutely.
00:03We'll do it live.
00:04I'll write it.
00:05We'll do it live.
00:07Todd Munkin spoke yesterday.
00:08Did you like Emory Hunt and what he said?
00:11I did.
00:11I think.
00:12I'll get to Deshaun Watson's future here in a second.
00:14We'll do it live.
00:15I think he was sensible.
00:17Shador fans.
00:18He was sensible.
00:20He said, yeah, Deshaun Watson.
00:22You know, it makes sense to go to him.
00:23Now, he thought it was more of an internal debate than I did.
00:27But either way.
00:28Emory?
00:28Yeah.
00:28But either way, he said the quarterback this week should be Deshaun Watson.
00:33Emory really likes Shador.
00:35And I understand.
00:36And I like Shador.
00:38Hell, it's half the reason I'm about to do the assignment I'm about to do.
00:41But.
00:47If they were really convinced he was his future, I keep going to like.
00:51When are you starting the season?
00:54And maybe it takes some time.
00:56I don't know.
00:56It's just man.
00:57Well, I don't know.
00:59I defend Cam Ward all the time.
01:01And I go, that's a terrible situation down there in Tennessee.
01:03I don't want a terrible situation for Cam Ward up here.
01:05I wouldn't want a terrible situation for Shador Sanders up here.
01:09It is.
01:10You have to reevaluate how we do this stuff with quarterbacks.
01:13Like, watch the Raiders this weekend.
01:15Mendoza's going, right?
01:16Yeah.
01:17Oh, yeah.
01:17So, they waited a spell to put him out there.
01:20Let's see how it goes.
01:22Let's see how it floats.
01:22Now, that's number one overall.
01:24But whatever he says, boy, when he makes that point about the fifth round affecting people's opinions and not moving
01:31off that opinion.
01:32And when he brings up Brock Purdy, I went, oh, that's a great point.
01:35I was jealous of that point.
01:37That was such a good one.
01:40So, yesterday, Lima laughed and laughed.
01:44Lima was loving it.
01:45Lima was loving it.
01:46Because yesterday afternoon, it was just getting cussed out all day long on Twitter and stuff like that.
01:51Lima was loving it.
01:51I think some people are going, oh, Lima's got to take that heat back.
01:54He's jealous that you got cussed out.
01:55I was a little jealous.
01:56You were jealous I got cussed out?
01:58Well, put it this way.
01:58I didn't mean to get cussed out.
02:00That's the whole point of it.
02:01One of my big complaints about Ken Carman for many years of this show was that he would have these
02:07big, big opinions.
02:10And it would be some walking back or a little bit of a, I don't want to be the guy
02:16that everybody is lining up with pitchforks against.
02:19Because you're so much nicer.
02:20As you always put it, your bedside manner is nicer.
02:24And that means you guys have texted about it, and I've got to stop saying it.
02:26Because I don't say anything, I don't say things on purpose to try to get people pissed off at me.
02:32No, I don't think you do.
02:33Unless it's another city.
02:33That's my whole thing.
02:35That doesn't count.
02:37Yeah.
02:38And honestly, what I said yesterday about Chidor, I got to tell you, I don't think I had many actual
02:44Browns fans from the yesteryear or now or the future who were really upset.
02:51It was a lot of, there was a lot of people who were real and they're, they just love Chidor
02:57more than I think some people love their own children.
03:00And then I told you, I was getting cuss out tweets from a lot of accounts in India, Australia, Turkey,
03:06Egypt, all over the place.
03:09Which kind of throws you off a little bit.
03:11I don't understand how you follow 17 accounts and it's Variety and National Enquirer and Ace Hardware.
03:20But somehow every response is about Chidor Sanders and you're based in Australia.
03:24That's odd to me.
03:25Some of them are in Turkey and we know it's because they're a little hop, skip and a jump over
03:28there to try to get the hair transplant, which they should just do right here.
03:32Advanced Coy Hair.
03:33Advanced Coy.
03:34With lasers.
03:34So yesterday we played, we played the Colin Cowherd and I was, what I was, the only thing I was
03:41taken aback by is like, I say it in the clip.
03:43I hope it's not true.
03:45And I said, if it is true, I got to wash my hands of them.
03:50And it was a wild, wild scene for the rest of the afternoon.
03:56But they didn't take any personal shots, right?
03:57Oh no, they took many.
03:58Like they kept it above board.
03:59They took many.
04:00A lot at my weight.
04:00Any threats?
04:01Do you have any threats?
04:02A lot at me.
04:02Yes.
04:02I'm not going to mention something.
04:05You almost walked me right into that one.
04:07I just wonder.
04:08I saw the one you took a screenshot of.
04:09That was.
04:10Oh, that's become fun.
04:12The wallpaper of my phone.
04:13That was, that was a fun, fun thing.
04:17Anywho.
04:19Yeah, there was, there was a couple of threats, which again, it's the internet or whatever.
04:23But what I said is like, you guys didn't catch the part where I said, I pray to God it
04:26isn't true.
04:28Todd went out there because we played the AJ Ross clip and I was glad that we played the AJ
04:34Ross clip because I went, well, okay, I have context here.
04:38And Lima lit me up going, Kenny, they're saying it's true though.
04:41You said if it's true, it's true.
04:43Okay, well, here's Todd Munkin yesterday addressing the question.
04:47And I feel bad to a certain degree because I basically, I kind of got this started, it seems, to
04:53the point where Denton Day mentioned it in one of our sports updates at the top of the hour, the
04:58bottom of the hour.
04:59He mentioned it.
04:59I couldn't believe it.
05:00I go, whoa.
05:00Okay.
05:01Well, off we go.
05:01And when Denton Day says it.
05:03Well, you know, it's got to be a big damn deal, right?
05:05I should say at the top of the hour.
05:06It's just at the end of the hour.
05:08So here is Todd Munkin yesterday on Shador asking for plays outside the playbook.
05:13It's hilarious that it's gone this far.
05:16Shador, what do you like?
05:18Well, I like this, this, and this.
05:19Yeah, I know.
05:20But how about we talk about like, you know, what we run, you know what I'm saying?
05:24It was fun.
05:25It was him and I together.
05:26It was, might have been in the hallway.
05:28It wasn't a sit down.
05:30It was a normal day to day, you know, where it's the same way with coaches.
05:34Coaches have ideas as we're game planning.
05:36Players have ideas, right?
05:38We just talked about it after the game.
05:39What were the ideas after the game?
05:41Well, maybe we ought to go fast.
05:42Maybe we ought to throw it every down.
05:43That's just the nature of it.
05:44I get a big kick out of it because it's really, it was really just a normal day to day
05:48of what
05:49a quarterback likes.
05:50It should be important what a quarterback likes and what he doesn't like.
05:53And there's some things we do that players don't like and they'd rather do something
05:56else.
05:56That's, that's, that's normal.
05:57There's coaches.
05:58That's part.
05:59I didn't see it as any big deal.
06:00It really isn't a big deal.
06:01So the biggest problem with what I said yesterday is this, is that there, and I'm just going
06:08to come right out and I'm going to say this here.
06:13There were so many people yesterday who were texting me going, Kenny, you said you hope
06:19it isn't true.
06:21And if it is true, you wash your hands of him.
06:24Todd is admitting in so many ways, it's true.
06:27And I go, hold on again, context matters.
06:30And so I'm just going to come out and say it.
06:32Do I like Todd Munkin?
06:35You're on record to say, no, you do not.
06:37Shut up.
06:37Do I like Todd?
06:38Yes, you do.
06:40You got it.
06:44Do I like Todd Munkin?
06:47You're on the record.
06:48Do I like Shador Sanders?
06:50Yes, you do.
06:53I, I'm going to take it as a joke and I'm going to take it and give him the benefit
06:56of the
06:56doubt.
06:57And that's not because I don't, guys, I don't care about the internet.
07:00I really don't.
07:01I, I, uh, I care about real Clevelanders.
07:03I care, I care about real Browns fans.
07:06I cannot say it enough.
07:07The bots and the burners and all that stuff.
07:09It, I, I don't care.
07:10I'm not broadcasting.
07:11Be clear.
07:12What are you saying again?
07:13I want you to be clear so everybody can hear you.
07:15I believe that it's a gag.
07:17I believe it's a joke.
07:19Wait a minute.
07:19Why are you trying to set me up for something here?
07:22That's a Ken Carman classic.
07:24I like how you point at him to call your shot.
07:27That's I love that.
07:28I love how you guys work together on that.
07:30That's great.
07:30That's great.
07:31I like how you guys work together.
07:32I like teamwork.
07:33That's nice.
07:34That's nice.
07:36Oh, and you should like it too.
07:37You and I have been coaches.
07:38So a guy doing teamwork here.
07:40Yeah.
07:40Here's a good thing.
07:41What's important here is that Ken's admission and his reversal here.
07:45And I feel like you've provided context, nuance, level-headed approach.
07:51I think this will get the Shador Sanders loyalists off your back once and for all.
07:55No, it won't.
07:55Once and for all, you won't have to put your wife in hiding and have her move.
08:00What hotel was she staying at last night because of all this?
08:02So I think that's important is that your kids are no longer targets and everything's okay now.
08:07Let's not mention the wife and kids, please, while we're doing gags here.
08:10Okay?
08:11Let's not do that.
08:12However.
08:12The neighbor's kids.
08:13Let's not do that either.
08:14They're very close.
08:16Any other children in the town?
08:18Almost too close.
08:19Let's leave children away.
08:21So anyway.
08:22What about animals?
08:24This is not said.
08:25You see, because it's always like I'm not trying to please everybody.
08:30I'm not trying to please anybody.
08:31I'm trying to say it how it is.
08:33When I heard what Colin Cowherd said, I went, whoa, wait a minute.
08:35And the problem was is that Lima tried to line me up and lead me to that water two days
08:40in a row.
08:40And I didn't take the bait.
08:41I did not take the bait for two days in a row.
08:43I did not hear it.
08:45Did not know.
08:46And then I heard A.J. Ross an hour later after we had to root hog through the entire game
08:50to go find it.
08:50Because somebody kept sending us the same clip.
08:53And I go, there's no video.
08:54I don't know if this is doctored.
08:56I mean, for the love of God, yet some guy could just go to jail over trying to extort over
09:00fake AI sex videos over here.
09:01I have no idea what's going on over the internet right now.
09:03Next segment.
09:04I'm not going to do that.
09:06So I wanted to get the actual clip.
09:08And the clip was everybody's jovial about it.
09:10Okay, fine.
09:11And I will admit it.
09:13And if you guys want to say, well, Kenny's not telling the truth.
09:15Okay, fine.
09:16I'm not going to try to make anybody happy.
09:17I'm just going to tell you how I see it.
09:18I like Todd Munkin.
09:20I like him a lot.
09:21I like Shador Sanders.
09:22I like his father a bunch.
09:23I'm a fan of his father.
09:25Okay?
09:26If it was a miscommunication, it's a gag.
09:29I don't care.
09:30I'm not washing my hands of him.
09:32I hope he does well.
09:34That's where I'm at.
09:35There's a lot of things that I will not back off of.
09:38The people, you should root for him to be traded.
09:41I'm not getting rid of him.
09:42No.
09:43And it's not out of spite.
09:44It's not out of spite.
09:45Or for your pocketbook.
09:47No.
09:49Do I make any more money now than I did back then?
09:55I make more money now than I did back then?
09:57Where are you hiding all of it?
09:58My Twitter account is not verified.
10:01I don't get checks from Twitter every month.
10:05I told you.
10:06I'm worried about my tax bracket.
10:07Okay.
10:07That's fine.
10:08Larry.
10:08Account Larry on the east side.
10:09We need to get me under a certain number.
10:11If we're talking about legitimacy here.
10:12The Shador is making me way too much money.
10:13If we want to take shots on legitimacy here.
10:15I mean, my account ain't verified.
10:17I ain't getting no checks from Twitter or social media.
10:19I don't have a YouTube page.
10:20I ain't getting no clips from YouTube.
10:21I ain't getting no checks from them.
10:23So, I mean, we could sit here and we could trade barbs all we want.
10:26But this is the fact of the matter of it.
10:27Okay.
10:28Is that I ain't getting rid of him.
10:30Because I think he's got a golden opportunity here.
10:31And I want him to make the most of his golden opportunity.
10:33He does.
10:34And that's what scared me.
10:35Is that I've said a lot of things.
10:36Hoping and hoping and hoping and hoping and hoping.
10:38And I want him to make the most of it.
10:39Hey, it just doesn't have to be this week.
10:41That's all that I think we're saying.
10:43Well, that.
10:44I wouldn't make that argument.
10:45I wasn't talking about this week.
10:47I was talking about the future in general when I heard the Cowherd clip.
10:49But when I hear Todd.
10:51Yeah.
10:51I'll admit.
10:52I like Todd.
10:53I think he's done a tremendous job with both quarterbacks this year.
10:56I really do.
10:57I didn't think there was anything redeeming about Deshaun Watson about this year.
11:01And you've gotten something out of him.
11:02I wondered whether or not Shador Sanders was too lost by the changes of the coaching staff.
11:09The changes of the offense.
11:10How things have gone awry with Kevin Stefanski.
11:13I wondered about that.
11:14I didn't see any of that on Sunday.
11:16So I would trust Todd with either of these two quarterbacks.
11:19Who I still probably don't believe that they're going to be here next year.
11:22Or with.
11:23Can I say his name again?
11:25Go ahead.
11:25Lenore Sellers.
11:27Well, I like him so much.
11:29I'm sorry.
11:30He's starting to get back to where.
11:32But I trust Todd.
11:33We thought he might be.
11:34And I like Shador because I love his father.
11:36Does Kenny want the graphic tomorrow?
11:38Maybe.
11:38We'll queue up the graphic.
11:40But.
11:42While I don't want.
11:46Well, yeah.
11:47I know what I said.
11:48And I have to backtrack on it.
11:49Because I like the two.
11:51And I'm going to believe that it was a gag.
11:53And it ain't no big deal.
11:55Even though there's plenty of people trying to text me saying it's a big deal.
11:59It's a big deal.
12:00People at Fox Sports going, Kenny, you know it's a big deal.
12:02I'm like, I think this has been blown out of proportion.
12:07And that.
12:07And sadly, I'm one of the people that blew it out of proportion.
12:10And that.
12:12That's a Ken Carman classic.
12:13Well done.
12:14Might be one of your best yet.
12:16I just can't wait until we start that new quarterback segment that we do.
12:19Why is it a classic if I told the truth?
12:21It's called Cellar's Dweller.
12:22How is it?
12:23How is it a?
12:24How is it?
12:25Forget it.
12:26How is it?
12:26How is it a classic if I told the truth?
12:29You did.
12:29We appreciate that.
12:30It's just when you decided to tell the truth.
12:33That's important.
12:36That's a Ken Carman classic.
12:38Oh, go to hell.
12:40I'm.
