00:01Yep, Todd Munkin saying what needs to be said, saying the right thing to say.
00:05However, Jared Verst said a lot of things.
00:07And we were huffing and puffing, and then he got his house blown down.
00:12And then he complained about dirtiness after the game.
00:16Here's Jared Verst, notice what he says, he says, we did not do enough.
00:20We didn't do enough on our end to do that.
00:22I mean, to come away with a win, and they did exactly what they needed to do.
00:25That's completely on us, on offense, defense, special teams across the board, nobody did enough.
00:29Well, I'm sorry, buddy, but we didn't talk a bunch of trash.
00:35You talked a bunch of trash.
00:37Because we, you didn't do enough.
00:41You had one tackle.
00:43Hell, I didn't even notice.
00:44Who was the guy with the Steelers that Jeff played earlier that was talking about Jared Verst?
00:47I mean, they're all ripping on him right now.
00:51I wouldn't be surprised if Jack Lambert all of a sudden hit social media and let him have it.
00:55And that guy's a recluse.
01:00By the way, it doesn't get any better, guys.
01:02The audio don't get any better.
01:05Jared Verst, he stands on everything he said this last week.
01:08I stand by everything I say.
01:09And as a man, you have to naturally do that.
01:11I think we could have definitely did more to just present ourselves as the team that we are.
01:14We didn't, I don't know who the hell that team was that walked out there, that presented themselves.
01:18We didn't do enough across the board from the first, you know, from the first quarter to the last quarter.
01:22And then there was a play with Mason McCormick on the field goal.
01:27I'm sure you saw that?
01:28Yeah.
01:29Okay.
01:29I'm just making sure we're all on the same page on Jared Verst getting powerbombed by Mason McCormick,
01:35which I think you think you know where I'm going to go on this, and I'm probably going to surprise
01:39you.
01:39But here's Jared on, he says it's just how those Steelers play.
01:42Nah, I mean, like what I've said before about them, that's just the way that they are.
01:46That's the way that, you know, him specifically, that's the way he plays.
01:49And that was just lack of awareness on my part.
01:51I should have had a better grasp of the type of play I was going up against, and, you know,
01:54that was just on me.
01:55Well, how do you not have the better grasp of what type of play you were going up against?
01:58You were talking about it all week.
02:00You talked about it all week.
02:02How did you not have a grasp on what you were going to play?
02:07How did you not have a grasp?
02:09It's a serious question.
02:10You talked about it all week.
02:11How did you not have a better grasp on what you were going to go up against?
02:14If they're that dangerous, how did you not know what you were going to go up against?
02:19I don't think there's a question.
02:20There's probably not an answer here.
02:21I'm asking for an answer for somebody who's probably just driving in right now.
02:25Like, you are – I'm putting you in a bad situation, Tony.
02:29Do you have anything about that before we move on to some of the real good stuff?
02:31Well, I was just thinking overall that it was weird.
02:35Like, somebody like Jared Verst is not a rookie, so he knows how hard it is, should know, to beat
02:41a team twice, especially in these circumstances.
02:48And, like, I would understand a bunch of rookies, maybe not understanding, but, like, he's the one that just because
02:54you beat a team the first time, they don't just roll out the same game plans the next time.
02:58And they've got proud guys over there, and Aaron Rodgers had been playing better, but you and I know, like,
03:05they've got veterans, very proud veterans over there in Pittsburgh.
03:10They had been playing better football since we had played them.
03:13So, what, had they not lost since they had played us?
03:16No.
03:16So, did Jared Verst just expect them?
03:19Did he think it was the rules of engagement that –
03:21We are actually their last loss.
03:23That they would have to play the exact same way?
03:25Same style, same plays, same script?
03:27I don't know.
03:28Because that's not really how the league works?
03:30I don't know.
03:31Teams actually adjust?
03:32I'm telling you, it gets better.
03:33I'm telling you, it gets better.
03:34Because then there was, obviously, the play with Mason McCormick, and they called it, and I have a difference of
03:38opinion coming up here in a moment, but Jared Verst had some words to say, and this is what he
03:43said.
03:43He did a lot more talking than he did tackling yesterday.
03:46Here's Jared Verst on what he said to some players.
03:48That's just me, simply.
03:49I'm like, that's the type of player you are?
03:50I love football.
03:51I love the aggression.
03:52I love how much power goes into it, how much people put into their lives into football.
03:55But to do something like that, it's just, I can't have respect for anything like that.
04:00Well, Jared, was the penalty dirty?
04:03I did.
04:03I, you know, the rest called it how they called it.
04:05I'm not going to add any fuel to the fire, but I think it was a very uncalled for a
04:08play.
04:08You left your feet.
04:11You left your feet.
04:14I agree with Jason Pinkston.
04:16Jason Pinkston tweeted about it.
04:17I agree with him.
04:20Jason this morning is like, hey, he left his feet.
04:23You're taught that as an all-line.
04:24If they leave their feet, they're jumping over you.
04:26Whatever happens in the air is what happens in the air.
04:29Just because he got the razor's edge, basically, on a field goal, why is that?
04:34I'm not blaming Mason McCormick for that.
04:36The stuff with grabbing guys' legs and stuff, yeah, that's beyond the pale.
04:40That, to me, is dirty.
04:41You left your feet.
04:43You went over the head.
04:44Wherever you land is now on you.
04:46I don't blame Mason McCormick for that.
04:49And it still goes to serve.
04:51You said everything you said.
04:53You said what you said in the post.
04:54And you said what you said during the week.
04:56And now we're over here complaining about dirty play again.
05:01That's embarrassing.
05:03You talk like that.
05:05You go out and get your ass handed to you.
05:07And we're still talking about dirty play.
05:10That's embarrassing.
05:11And he should be embarrassed by it.
05:142-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
05:16I got people already regretting the trade.
05:18Oh, I saw a ton of that yesterday.
05:20I'm serious.
05:21I don't know what you have to add to it.
05:24What I just, what I heard right there is flat embarrassing.
05:29I don't play football.
05:31Okay?
05:32I'm not in the NFL.
05:33I don't sit there and write.
05:34And even as an outsider, I was trying to not write checks that you had to cash.
05:38You left your feet.
05:40That's what happens.
05:41You are responsible now for where you land.
05:44That's why they don't like guys trying to leap over each other when they're,
05:47I know that happened in the USC game.
05:49That's going to be a dynamite poster someday.
05:51But that's why they don't condone that.
05:53It's like, hey, wherever you land is now on you.
05:55Like, you're up there.
05:56You don't know what's going on.
05:57And it ain't ballet, brother.
05:59Like, there's going to be something.
06:00It's probably going to be a hard landing.
06:01You left your feet.
06:02You went to the air.
06:04Wherever you land is on you.
06:05You happen to be on a dirty player or a perceived dirty player.
06:09But what he did to me, what he did to a lot of people out there,
06:12guys who played the game, that was within the letter of the law.
06:16Mika Fitzpatrick launching himself helmet to helmet.
06:18I got a problem with that.
06:19Mason McCormick grabbing guys by the legs and doing that type of thing.
06:21I got a problem with that.
06:22What happened yesterday on that play, I did not have a problem with.
06:25Even the way he put him down.
06:27It was embarrassing.
06:28Yes.
06:29All he was doing was embarrassing himself.
06:31He knew it as an embarrassing play.
06:33And he made it even worse.
06:34I'm sorry.
06:35You get beat by 21.
06:37You are not even really competitive in the football game.
06:40I mean, you bring it back in within 13-6.
06:42Then you give up a touchdown with, what, 40 seconds left to go in the first half?
06:4740 seconds, it's 20-6.
06:49Get on the bus right then.
06:50You don't even need to come out at halftime.
06:52How many?
06:53They gave up 160 on the ground in the first half?
06:56What did they finish with?
06:571,000?
06:59I'm serious.
07:01You get gashed like that, and we're saying we?
07:04Oh, okay.
07:05We.
07:07You.
07:09Grant?
07:10Did I hear Grant Delpit say much during the week?
07:12Maybe he might have said something.
07:14Well, remember.
07:15I would expect Grant to say, but I don't remember Grant saying anything.
07:17I remember Jared Verst saying a lot.
07:19I'm serious.
07:20Remember, it was Denzel Ward that was, like, I think the media tried to get a juicy soundbite
07:27from him about the rivalry, and Denzel, in the very nicest way possible, was, like,
07:32not taking the bait on that.
07:33Because he knows.
07:34He knows.
07:34He's been here.
07:35Because you went out there, and you got your ass beat on the road again in that stadium.
07:41I don't even know if they played Renegade.
07:44That was a big, emerging storyline, that they didn't get it in.
07:48They didn't play it?
07:48That they never.
07:49How do you not play it?
07:50You didn't need it.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
07:53What did you need to pump people up for?
07:55Oh, no.
07:55You were beating the asses of the Cleveland Browns.
07:57You're a sound man.
07:58You play music in stadiums.
08:00Whoever made the call to not play Renegade should be in serious trouble.
08:03You're up big.
08:04You're playing the Browns.
08:06Everybody in the stadium's losing their mind.
08:08And it's an embarrassment to sit there and watch the way they played it.
08:11You don't play Renegade to get the people going even more?
08:13To rub our noses in it?
08:15I agree with not playing it, Ken.
08:16Because they use Renegade as a moment in the game that they think they need to sway the crowd
08:23or sway the way that the game is going.
08:26And at no point yesterday did they need to sway the way the game was going.
08:29They didn't need to turn the tide at all.
08:31Especially for a team that had played it at the beginning of every practice all week
08:35to use it as their own motivation.
08:37Oh, that's something else.
08:37Yeah, that's true.
08:38When you want to get pumped up, they're going to play this song.
08:40We're going to get pumped up from it instead.
08:42That's why I would have done it.
08:43That's why I would have done it.
08:44You played Renegade?
08:45Okay.
08:46And that was Todd's little thing.
08:47But he didn't go to the media and say it.
08:49It was just observed.
08:50Nobody said anything.
08:51He didn't say it.
08:52So then you played Renegade.
08:53Everybody knows you played Renegade.
08:55So you want to play Renegade?
08:56Oh, you're going to hear Renegade.
08:58You're out there getting your ass handed to you?
09:00We're putting in Mason Rudolph for garbage time?
09:03We'll save it for moments in games in which we actually need it.
09:06Didn't need Renegade yesterday.
09:08Didn't need it.
09:09I didn't even realize, Kenny, that Mason Rudolph got in
09:12because it was barbecuing time over at the Limehouse.
09:15Oh, I noticed he got in.
09:16It was the last however many minutes of that game.
09:20I noticed he got it in.
09:21It did not matter to me.
09:22Yeah, I know.
09:22I looked because I couldn't believe that I saw Deshaun Watson was over –
09:26he had over 300 yards.
09:28I'm like, that's –
09:29His best passing yards-wise.
09:30Yeah, that was news.
09:32That was news to me because that game was off.
09:34I didn't believe.
09:34Because there were some crazy fun games going on.
09:37Am I a bad fan for saying bye-bye, other things to do?
09:40It makes it –
09:42No, I bet a lot of people –
09:43I bet there was a lot of people who did not see
09:45when Mason Rudolph came into the football game.
09:47They finished with 200 yards exactly rushing yesterday.
09:49The Pittsburgh Steelers did.
09:51Holy wah.
09:53Quinchon Judkins averaged a stout 2.3 yards a carry.
09:57But, again, does it help any bit at all if you're not sitting there talking all week,
10:02saying things all week, and then you're using we when it was you who said it?
10:06Stand up for what you said.
10:08I said it.
10:08They win.
10:09They get the spoils.
10:11They get to talk the trash.
10:12That's the way it goes.
10:13I got to be better because you got one tackle,
10:15and I got people here saying they didn't even notice you were playing
10:17until you ended up getting the razor's edge.
10:20Yeah, it's –
10:22You're supposed to be better against the run.
10:24If you're better against the run, you should have more tackles than one,
10:26shouldn't you?
10:27Kenny, he should have a lot more than everything he has.
10:29So you don't get tackles and you don't get sacks.
10:31And you talk trash and piss off the other team.
10:34What exactly do you do here, buddy?
10:36There's no doubt.
10:37We are not off to a good start together.
10:39No, there is no doubt that the organization is a little nervous
10:43about the start of the Jared Burse career.
10:45That I am pissed over.
10:47216-474-0092.
10:49You think they regret this trade?
10:51Do you want to ask that or is that too much?
10:53I know the fans right now do.
10:55I know a lot of fans do.
10:56All right, I'll ask you guys.
10:57We'll take you guys.
10:58216-474-0092.
11:00And coming up at 7, I'm pretty upset with somebody
11:02who went even in a bronze jersey yesterday.
11:04Ken Carman, Anthony Lima, live on the –
