00:00to talk about the Browns in the second half of the season the quarterback situation and more
00:04and of course the trade deadline we had out of the wise heart right we make it right call Kyle
00:08Wright hotline got to get to the Ohio State Buckeyes as well because I know he's not happy
00:12about that Albert Breer the MMQB joins us hey Albert how you doing bud I'm good how you guys
00:17doing well we got to start here one we're good did this trade deadline live up to what you thought
00:23it was going to be because some some fans and media members are saying it didn't do that
00:29yeah I think it's it's just what it always is isn't it like I don't feel like this is unusual
00:35there's a lot of talk about a lot of different players and like if you think every player that's
00:41going to be every player that's discussed is going to be moved like I don't know you probably haven't
00:47been paying attention right like I just feel like this is always the way it is and there are a
00:51lot
00:51of teams looking for a lot of different things and you know you kind of dig through all of that
00:55and
00:56then um you know in the end a handful of deals get made and a bunch more don't you know
01:02and it's
01:03it's hard to do these deals in the middle of the season football is a different animal than basketball
01:07or baseball or hockey and um yeah I mean I I don't feel like this was any sort of departure
01:14from the norm it's you know we had one kind of you know I'd say blockbuster uh today which to
01:23me
01:23would have been uh Kirk Cousins deal I'm talking about starting quarterback changing teams maybe
01:28another blockbuster out of left field yesterday and Jordan Davis and then you know a bunch of moves
01:33that I think stand to make teams better that's that's generally like somewhere around there I
01:39would say no it's not unusual that it would be it would be like that so we're kind of in
01:43lockstep
01:43with you but is there a move that didn't happen like a specific name or a specific trade that
01:49didn't happen that surprised you um it didn't happen um I mean if you had told me that the
02:02chargers were going to move Dan Henley he's a really good player in a contract year um and but
02:08then not open the door to move Khalil Mack that would have surprised me now the chargers weren't like
02:13they love Khalil Mack but the reality is he's 35 years old uh he's in the last year of his
02:18contract
02:19and they're all in eight you know so I guess that would be one where they could have gotten something
02:24for him and let him go contend somewhere for the rest of the year so to me that surprised me
02:29a little
02:30bit I wasn't real surprised that Jonathan Taylor wasn't moved I I sort of felt like where the Colts
02:36had set that price it just wasn't going to happen um you know I I know the um uh the
02:45Vikings had some
02:46or the the Colts had some action on um on Daniel Jones it didn't really turn into anything um I
02:54there's nothing crazy that didn't happen that like really surprised me all that much I mean you'd be
03:00going way down the line like you know a Grover Stewart remaining in Indianapolis stuff like that like
03:05maybe I would have expected a guy like that to move but but nothing too major Albert I wanted to
03:10read on on the idea that Todd Munkin didn't come out on Monday uh yesterday and just say Deshaun
03:15Watson's the quarterback moving forward now I what would you read into that that hesitancy that he had
03:20there and in saying like we got to go back and then talk about it and I don't want to
03:23I don't want
03:24to name a quarterback despite what he had said the week prior I don't know I mean I think like
03:30that's
03:31more just leaving open options um you know I mean getting a chance to look at things a little deeper
03:41I think they will go with Watson um but I you know I think it's also like in some cases
03:47it can be
03:47to kind of keep guys locked in and working you know I mean work as if you're the starter right
03:52so
03:53um you know I I don't think there's too much to read into it other than Shadour played pretty well
03:59and showed some things and we're probably going to see Shadour at some point this year
04:03if they fall out of contention and maybe it's healthy to have that conversation but I do think
04:08it'll be Deshaun. Albert is the decision at quarterback still entirely on Todd Munkin's shoulders
04:15or is there more deliberation now than maybe back in August when he himself declared himself the
04:22quarterback kingmaker for the start of the season? No I think it's still his decision I mean I you
04:28know I think when you're in a position where you're contending and you're in the race for a
04:32playoff spot for a division title all those different things it has to be the head coach's
04:36decision I think when it becomes like a broader organizational thing is when you fall out of
04:40the race right and and yes like everybody has input in the quarterback but I think while you know
04:47you're sort of in the fight of a season where like your goals are still in front of you and
04:51all
04:51that then like I would say it has to be the head coach's decision if they were to lose three
04:58or
04:58four games in a row and now you're out of the race then maybe we're talking about something else
05:02but I don't think they're there yet. Were you surprised that Deshaun did clear the concussion
05:08protocol on Saturday and then he didn't end up starting on Sunday or did you just take that as it
05:12was just it was just too quick of a turnaround and it was never going to happen like is there
05:15any background on what turned out to be a really weird week for Deshaun and everything around this
05:20concussion? Yeah like it was a weird week and that is a little different I would say and I think
05:30you
05:31know some of it can boil down to like as simple as hey you know if this guy was a
05:38tight end this guy
05:39was a running back in this scenario we would not play him so we're not going to play him just
05:44because
05:44he's a quarterback he didn't go through practice during the week we're trying to set a standard
05:49here we we we got somebody else ready to play we're going to play him you know so I think
05:55sometimes it
05:55can be as simple as that now not dressing him is a different story a little bit of a different
06:00story
06:01but um yeah I mean I think I think it's I think as much as anything else it's the timing
06:06of it you know
06:06it's that he it said he wasn't cleared until the very end of the week and and and I'm sure
06:11that's
06:11standard set for everybody in the team where you know if you don't practice you don't play and he
06:17didn't practice so he didn't play. Albert there was a lot of scuttlebutt leading into the deadline
06:23about you know whether Shador might try and facilitate a trade his camp or whether the Browns
06:29might look to trade Shador I'm just curious was there interest around the NFL at this trade deadline
06:35in Shador Sanders that you heard of? Not that I know of right like honestly frankly I would
06:41be surprised if it was um I I view it a little bit like and I don't know if this
06:49is fair or not but
06:49I view it a little like Tebow and Kaepernick and like not that these are all the same but like
06:57the
06:57celebrity quarterback where like if you're another team would you want to bring would you want to
07:04introduce that into your mix and I think this is sort of the cost of like some of the extra
07:10stuff
07:10that's gone along with having him there right like why would you if the guy's not even if that guy's
07:16not even going to be your starting quarterback like why would you introduce that into your culture
07:21you guys you guys follow me follow me on that like I don't know why you would do it but
07:26it wouldn't make
07:26much sense at all you have to think a lot of him as a player it's like when you're bringing
07:31in a guy
07:31because you like him and it's like okay like developmentally like we feel like in a year or
07:36two maybe we could have something there you're gonna do that in the middle of season I mean it
07:40almost has to be a guy that's gonna fall in line you know and a guy who's gonna be you
07:45know who's
07:46gonna I mean blend in with the furniture more or less do you think Shador would just do that
07:50somewhere else no he's not doing it here so right right so like I I don't know why I honestly
07:58I just
07:59don't know why another team would be interested in that that and that at this point you know it
08:04doesn't make a ton of sense to me I want the earlier answers Albert you'd said something about
08:08like when when the season falls off that's when we'll see Shador but I want to focus on the when
08:12the season falls off part is that is that how you see this Browns year going there's a lot of
08:16fans
08:16that think no no no okay and I wasn't I wasn't saying that no um I I don't I I
08:26don't know like
08:28what um I don't know where it's going um but I know they got a couple good teams in their
08:34division
08:34in Pittsburgh and Cincinnati I think the conference is good um and I think they're gonna be competitive
08:40the rest of the year and so to me that means like I think they're gonna be in a lot
08:43of close games
08:44the rest of the year and maybe that results in 10 and 7 maybe that results in 7 and 10
08:48you know like I just think that's sort of where they're at that's why they have all the fourth
08:52quarter comebacks because they are in a lot of these games you know and it is to me a credit
08:58to
08:58like what Todd Munkins played to the way Deshaun Watson has handled himself at the end of a lot of
09:03these games the way Shador played last week like and being able to bring them back and put them
09:08in position to win that game you don't get the two-point conversion so you lose but you need a
09:12lot
09:12to put them in position to win that game um that the team has a knack about it at the
09:17end of the
09:17game um but that can always swing the other way you know so I expect that they're gonna be
09:22competitive the rest of the year and I I'm not saying like I could see like some I see some
09:28precipitous follow-up coming but like some of those games could go the other way and if they do now
09:33all
09:33of a sudden your record looks different that's what I'm talking about potentially happening
09:36uh but I I think a lot of the a lot of the good that they've established the young players
09:41they
09:41have a lot of that stuff is sustainable Albert I'm incensed by where Ohio State is am I out of
09:48bounds or am I thinking wrong by thinking if you spend 60 million dollars on a roster it should be
09:55equipped to handle a backup quarterback in there and still be able to be competitive in Big Ten games
10:02yeah I think there are a lot of things wrong I would tell you so I mean I wasn't I
10:08wasn't blown
10:09away by what happened in the Oregon game because Oregon has like real players you know and so like
10:15if we I knew if we played the way that we played against UFC against Oregon it was not going
10:23to be good
10:23now that's not what happened in the first whatever 28 minutes of that game um the first 28 minutes
10:31that game looked fine and then you know I'd say after that like every problem that every problem
10:37that you thought what happened did happen and I think it all comes back down guys and this is the
10:42end of the Texas game this is the USC game this is the Oregon game I think in spite of
10:49it was the
10:49Indiana game too and getting Julian Sander they're not good enough to align a scrimmage and it's almost
10:56hard to fathom that Ohio Ohio State is in that position but it's the reality of it I had somebody
11:03tell me like I this was probably five six weeks ago when Sam was struggling a little bit and I
11:09was
11:09asking like no the answer was not your offensive line isn't good enough it was like back then they
11:15were saying that the offensive line isn't good enough the offensive line isn't good enough and then
11:19the defensive front like I don't know like all I heard all week is how you know Dylan Rayola gets
11:27knocked around a little bit he's a different player I mean it looked like he was playing seven on seven
11:32on Saturday so yeah I I just think like I just think that there's there's an issue with the way
11:38the team's built right now and they're gonna have to do some real work to fix it and um you
11:44know the
11:44quarterback situation is part of that but you like to say like if you're gonna spend that much on a
11:48roster you shouldn't have this sort of problem at the line of scrimmage um which I think uh that
11:54having a backup quarterback in there a true freshman quarterback in there is exposed Albert I feel like
11:59I'm being very reasonable and measured in my criticism of Ohio State so help me God if they
12:07lose to North Northwestern this weekend I will not be measured anymore uh we appreciate you buddy
12:13great stuff as always all right thanks guys have a good one Albert Breer there MMQB on the
12:18wide chart right we make it right call Kyle Wright hotline
